From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on


Earl Evleth wrote:
>
> On 12/01/10 18:00, in article 4B4CAA9B.B2C8206E(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde
> {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Because the language of the United States is English. You can speak
> > any languages you want, and there's nothing wrong with that, but
> > you should know the English
>
> Eventually "you" should know Spanish too in some regions.
>
Do "you" know Spanish, Earl?


> By 2050
> only 46% of the USA will be no-Hispanic Whites and 30% Hispanics.
>
> By 2050, the California population is projected at 52.14%
> Hispanic, Whites at 26%.
>
> States like New Mexico already have Hispanic populations approaching
> 50%.
>
So you can see why letting in unlimited numbers of immigrates might
bother some people, who think that there are cultural values can be
become overwhelmed.




--
"Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually
said.
From: Earl Evleth on
On 12/01/10 18:32, in article 4B4CB210.C7C09531(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde
{Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
<tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Do "you" know Spanish, Earl?


I don't have too, I am not living in California surrounded by Hispanics

I speak French because of necessity. I hod no choice if I wanted to live
and work here.

> So you can see why letting in unlimited numbers of immigrates might
> bother some people, who think that there are cultural values can be
> become overwhelmed.


The American Indians felt that way. They did not even "let" them
in, they came from Europe and stole that land.



From: John Rennie on
Earl Evleth wrote:
> On 12/01/10 18:00, in article 4B4CAA9B.B2C8206E(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde
> {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Because the language of the United States is English. You can speak
>> any languages you want, and there's nothing wrong with that, but
>> you should know the English
>
> Eventually "you" should know Spanish too in some regions. By 2050
> only 46% of the USA will be no-Hispanic Whites and 30% Hispanics.
>
> By 2050, the California population is projected at 52.14%
> Hispanic, Whites at 26%.
>
> States like New Mexico already have Hispanic populations approaching
> 50%.
>
>
Once upon a time the white population of California was
nigh on 100% Spanish.

'Beginning in the late 18th century, the area known as Alta California
was colonized by the Spanish Empire' Wikipedia.
From: Donna Evleth on


> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.europe
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:00:11 +0000
> Subject: Re: English invasion 'threatens Fwench language more thanNazisdid'
>
>
>
> Donna Evleth wrote:
>>
>>> From: "Bill Bonde {Colour me colourless)"
>>> <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>>> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
>>> those who come after us.
>>> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.europe
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:02:05 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: English invasion 'threatens Fwench language more than Nazisdid'
>>>
>>> Didn't you contest the claim that English words were disfavoured by
>>> officialdom in the French idioma? If official documents must be "in
>>> French", doesn't that substantially prove the original assertion
>>> about the insular nature of the French and their Sprache? Which is
>>> odd compared to people nearby on an island with the most open major
>>> language in the world.
>>
>> There are people in the US who are screaming because election ballots and
>> driver's license exams are in Spanish as well as English. The screamers
>> want English only.
>>
> Because the language of the United States is English. You can speak
> any languages you want, and there's nothing wrong with that, but
> you should know the English.
>
>
>
>
>> Here is an excerpt from an article in the Seoul Times of January 12, 2010 on
>> the subject:
>>
>> Adding ballots in languages other than English might increase the cost of
>> printing election materials from 15 to 40 percent. Adding bilingual poll
>> workers adds to the expense.
>>
> Is that even possible? Who knows what '2nd' language someone might
> want?
>
>
>> Cost is a definite concern, but some people have other strong reservations.
>> Some object to the very idea of ballots in languages other than English.
>> Some people fear that voting in Spanish, Vietnamese, Chinese, or whatever
>> second language the law might require, will result in the beginning of a
>> slippery rope which will Balkanize the country and lead it the same path as
>> Canada into a possible break up.
>>
> Is that the same fear that the French feel? I take what the French
> are doing as becoming angry that any purity issues in their
> language. But you don't have to go far to hear people make fun of
> anyone who might try to write or speak in French. I was told in
> this very newsgroup to try to write in French because the poster
> wanted a laugh. Apparently they couldn't find enough laughs in what
> I write in English.

You are telling me that I "don't have to go far to hear people make fun of
anyone who might try to write or speak in French". This is one of your more
stupid remarks. The French love people who are not native francophones who
make the effort to read and write in French. I am a living example. In
December 2009 I had an article published in a prestigious French journal, Le
Mouvement Social, in French. The reason I had an article published in this
very prestigious journal is because those closely involved with the journal
thought an article by me would be a good thing. One of the people who
suggested this did not know me personally. He only knew my work, and
respected it.

Donna Evleth
>
>
>
> --
> "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually
> said.

From: Donna Evleth on


> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.europe
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:32:00 +0000
> Subject: Re: English invasion 'threatens Fwench language more thanNazisdid'
>
>
>
> Earl Evleth wrote:
>>
>> On 12/01/10 18:00, in article 4B4CAA9B.B2C8206E(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde
>> {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
>> <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Because the language of the United States is English. You can speak
>>> any languages you want, and there's nothing wrong with that, but
>>> you should know the English
>>
>> Eventually "you" should know Spanish too in some regions.
>>
> Do "you" know Spanish, Earl?
>
>
>> By 2050
>> only 46% of the USA will be no-Hispanic Whites and 30% Hispanics.
>>
>> By 2050, the California population is projected at 52.14%
>> Hispanic, Whites at 26%.
>>
>> States like New Mexico already have Hispanic populations approaching
>> 50%.
>>
> So you can see why letting in unlimited numbers of immigrates might
> bother some people, who think that there are cultural values can be
> become overwhelmed.

Do "immigrates" equal "ingrates"?

Donna Evleth
>
>
>
>
> --
> "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually
> said.