From: John Sisker on
"Tom K" <tkanitra(a)optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4c0b1dc6$0$21968$607ed4bc(a)cv.net...
> If you like Carnival fine. If you like recommending it to your clients...
> that's your decision. But my experience on Carnival was below my minimal
> acceptable level. Carnival is not something that I can honestly
> recommend. Not with so many better alternatives, many of which they own.
>
> --Tom



Tom,

Fair assumption, but like any recommendation, if we feel Carnival best fits
the bill for the clients needs, wants and budget, then that will be one of
our suggestions - unless of course, they purposely request otherwise for
some reason. But even then, we will find out why. We also try not to let our
individual bias influence our research, but will take into consideration our
personal experience. Yet, as someone said, your experience with Carnival was
years ago, on a 3 or 4 day cruise, and on one of their older ships; no
wonder you tend to look elsewhere. Yet, the Carnival of yesteryear if not
the Carnival of today. We were initially cruising on Carnival when beer
drinking contests were the "in" thing. Yet, today, it's a whole different
ballpark with them, still fun, but not so much the party atmosphere that
some tend to think it is. You may be pleasantly surprised with today's
Carnival Cruise Line.

In addition, we are well aware that Carnival is more of a mass-market cruise
line, hence their popularity. Likewise, there are other cruise lines, such
as Holland American Line (HAL), for example, which tends to cater to a more
experience, upscale audience. Even though HAL is owned by Carnival itself,
they also know the need to appeal to different market segments. In fact, we
have not only sailed on both cruise lines a number of times ourselves, but
many others as well.

John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY�
(714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850)
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From: Stu on
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:38:19 -0700, "John Sisker" <jsisker(a)sprynet.com>
wrote:

>"Tom K" <tkanitra(a)optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:4c0b1dc6$0$21968$607ed4bc(a)cv.net...
>> If you like Carnival fine. If you like recommending it to your clients...
>> that's your decision. But my experience on Carnival was below my minimal
>> acceptable level. Carnival is not something that I can honestly
>> recommend. Not with so many better alternatives, many of which they own.
>>
>> --Tom
>
>
>
>Tom,
>
>Fair assumption, but like any recommendation, if we feel Carnival best fits
>the bill for the clients needs, wants and budget, then that will be one of
>our suggestions - unless of course, they purposely request otherwise for
>some reason. But even then, we will find out why. We also try not to let our
>individual bias influence our research, but will take into consideration our
>personal experience. Yet, as someone said, your experience with Carnival was
>years ago, on a 3 or 4 day cruise, and on one of their older ships; no
>wonder you tend to look elsewhere. Yet, the Carnival of yesteryear if not
>the Carnival of today. We were initially cruising on Carnival when beer
>drinking contests were the "in" thing. Yet, today, it's a whole different
>ballpark with them, still fun, but not so much the party atmosphere that
>some tend to think it is. You may be pleasantly surprised with today's
>Carnival Cruise Line.

Yes indeed, many went on Carnival years back, they've changed quite
abit, and the food is much better than most.
From: George Leppla on
On 6/7/2010 1:38 PM, John Sisker wrote:

> Fair assumption, but like any recommendation, if we feel Carnival best
> fits the bill for the clients needs, wants and budget, then that will be
> one of our suggestions -

Here is what your "clients" can expect about your recommendations...
taken from your website:

"Users of our Website and/or recommendations agree that use of our
booking services are entirely at the users own risk."

And.....

"SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY� does not warrant the accuracy,
completeness, merchantability, or fitness for a particular purpose of
any of the data on its Website or any referrals, recommendations,
troubleshooting, suggestions and/or other services provided herewith."

So much for recommendations and suggestions.


>. Yet, as someone said, your
> experience with Carnival was years ago, on a 3 or 4 day cruise, and on
> one of their older ships; no wonder you tend to look elsewhere.


As I recall, the vast majority of your Carnival Cruise experiences was
on 3 and 4 night Carnival cruises, no? Perhaps you could post a list of
the numerous longer Carnival cruises you have been on so we can share in
your experiences.


> In addition, we are well aware that Carnival is more of a mass-market
> cruise line, hence their popularity. Likewise, there are other cruise
> lines, such as Holland American Line (HAL), for example, which tends to
> cater to a more experience, upscale audience. Even though HAL is owned
> by Carnival itself, they also know the need to appeal to different
> market segments. In fact, we have not only sailed on both cruise lines a
> number of times ourselves, but many others as well.

John, you'll have to refresh my memory. Which HAL cruise ships have you
cruised on a "number of times"?

--

George Leppla

Countryside Travel http://www.CruiseMaster.com
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From: peter on
X-no-archive: yes On 6/7/10 9:23 PM, in article
hujgvj01cqj(a)news4.newsguy.com, "Leper" wrote:

> John, you'll have to refresh my memory. Which HAL cruise ships have you
> cruised on a "number of times"?

Yeah John, please tell Leper: he wants to update his John Sisker database as
he doesn't have anything else to do. He hasn't seen a customer since late
last year.

From: Stu on
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:41:47 +0200, peter <peters25(a)stockton.com>
wrote:

>X-no-archive: yes On 6/7/10 9:23 PM, in article
>hujgvj01cqj(a)news4.newsguy.com, "Leper" wrote:
>
>> John, you'll have to refresh my memory. Which HAL cruise ships have you
>> cruised on a "number of times"?
>
>Yeah John, please tell Leper: he wants to update his John Sisker database as
>he doesn't have anything else to do. He hasn't seen a customer since late
>last year.

Why not answer the question? I'm sure John would be happy to.