From: peter on
X-no-archive: yes On 6/10/10 11:06 PM, in article
87d2feFf4cU1(a)mid.individual.net, "Ari" <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Btw, TAs for the greatest part aren't that damn smart, don't track
> your cruise details and don't do what ppl are claiming they do here on
> RTC.

And they certainly can't offer any help if you're stranded in some remote
port after you missed the ship, as Charles or some other na�ve soul claimed.

From: Ari on
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:02:51 +0200, peter wrote:

> X-no-archive: yes On 6/10/10 11:02 PM, in article
> 87d26uFdlgU1(a)mid.individual.net, "Ari" <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:12:39 -0500, Rosalie B. wrote:
>>
>>> No - they want your money with the least possible effort and time on
>>> their part. They don't care whether you are on the ship or not.
>>
>> Not a chance this is right. The lines look well past your simple
>> booking to what they can sell you at much higher profit margins.
>
> For both CCL and RCL onboard revenue is a substantial part of total sales.
> Why does Rosalie think they don't care about that?

Hell if I know but the cruise lines sure do care.
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From: Ari on
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:03:03 +0200, peter wrote:

> X-no-archive: yes On 6/10/10 11:06 PM, in article
> 87d2feFf4cU1(a)mid.individual.net, "Ari" <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Btw, TAs for the greatest part aren't that damn smart, don't track
>> your cruise details and don't do what ppl are claiming they do here on
>> RTC.
>
> And they certainly can't offer any help if you're stranded in some remote
> port after you missed the ship, as Charles or some other na�ve soul claimed.

That's assuming you can find your TA in the first place. How many are
on call 24/366? Few.
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From: Dillon Pyron on
[Default] Thus spake Ohioguy <none(a)none.net>:

>> I forgot to mention, you can get air from the cruise line. I'm not sure
>> if they have prices online but you can ask your travel agent to quote
>
> That's another thing I wanted to ask - I've never used a travel
>agent. Normally I've just taken a train, bus or car to wherever I was
>going, then camped, stayed in a hotel, or something along those lines.
>
> I always thought that the travel agents simply made money by adding
>on a couple of hundred dollars to the cheapest thing out there, and
>folks figured it was ok because of the convenience of them doing most
>all the work of getting scheduling and everything to work out. You're
>saying it is not like that?
>
> If so, I might have to check out a local travel agency before buying
>the tickets myself.

I think every agent here has pretty much the same view. I want to
find you the vacation (cruise in this case) that most satisfies your
needs and wants (two different things) at the best price. Sure, I
might lose commission by not selling you the Emperor of the Universe
Suite when all you really need/want is a good inside, but I'll bet you
come back next time since I "saved" you money (I know, this is like
"saving money" by buying one and getting a second at half price, even
though you only need one). It shouldn't cost you anything, since the
cruiseline pays me. And if you don't use an agent you still pay the
same price and wind up talking to some person in Omaha who may never
have even seen a ocean in person, never mind been on a cruise.

Ask an agent questions. And make sure he/she asks a bunch of
questions. Stuff you haven't thought about.
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From: Ari on
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:46:19 -0500, Dillon Pyron wrote:

> [Default] Thus spake Ohioguy <none(a)none.net>:
>
>>> I forgot to mention, you can get air from the cruise line. I'm not sure
>>> if they have prices online but you can ask your travel agent to quote
>>
>> That's another thing I wanted to ask - I've never used a travel
>>agent. Normally I've just taken a train, bus or car to wherever I was
>>going, then camped, stayed in a hotel, or something along those lines.
>>
>> I always thought that the travel agents simply made money by adding
>>on a couple of hundred dollars to the cheapest thing out there, and
>>folks figured it was ok because of the convenience of them doing most
>>all the work of getting scheduling and everything to work out. You're
>>saying it is not like that?
>>
>> If so, I might have to check out a local travel agency before buying
>>the tickets myself.
>
> I think /every/ agent here has pretty much the same view. I want to
> find you the vacation (cruise in this case) that most satisfies your
> needs and wants (two different things) at the best price.

Not a chance since many of the big ticket TAgencies push their TAs to
deliver the best commissioned deals.
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