From: d4g4h4 on
John Kulp <john_kulp(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:06:57 +0100, Martin <me(a)address.invalid> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:44:41 GMT, "tam" <tpsc12248(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"ah" <anonewsgr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:13l8fcirp70rh3e(a)corp.supernews.com...
> >>> No, the Bergman week is not really new. I think that it started a few
> >>> years ago. I know about Bergman's life there because I recorded the
> >>> excellent series Encountering Bergman broadcast on BBC4 last summer. I
> >>> want certainly to go to Gotland, on my way to Faro. Do you live there, if
> >>> I may ask? I am in London.
> >>>
> >>Personally I have enough punters in my life trying to make me depressed on a
> >>day to day basis
> >>Bergman must be one of the worlds top most depressing people.
> >>I found his story about how he and his brother attempted to murder their
> >>baby sister sinister.
> >>Do you think it really happened?.
> >>Perhaps its all the fog and gloom up there.
> >
> >Blended with large quantities of poor quality alcohol.
>
> That certainly isn't the problem. Even their bathtun gin is great.
> Just expensive.

If it's anything like Norway, then there's a lot of terrible homebrew...

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From: ah on
I am not sure now if you'll ever read this, as this thread is starting to be
a bit ancient but let's try anyway.



Goteborg, yes, I have been there, long ago, I think that we took the ferry
somewhere in Denmark (perhaps Frederickshavn?) and arrived in Goteborg then
drove all the way to the North Cape through Norway and back across Finland &
Sweden.



I have a great admiration for Bergman. Actually he is my soulmate, alter
ego, god, cinemawise. I find his films extremely powerful. I feel
everything strongly but don't have his genius to express myself. The day
after he died, i.e. on the 31st of July 2007 we did a climb in the French
Alps. I asked my alpinist friends that we dedicate the climb to Ingmar
Bergman, and they all accepted. Just in case you would be interested, the
photographs of the climb are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicc/sets.
Bergman's climb is the Tsanteleina 3,606m.



Yes, I am interested in caves, thank you for the tip.



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ah



"�r Freud" <drfreud(a)mymail.com> wrote in message
news:fj1laf$dsi$1(a)news.datemas.de...
> On 03.12.2007 18:32 , ah wrote:
>> No, the Bergman week is not really new. I think that it started a few
>> years
>> ago. I know about Bergman's life there because I recorded the excellent
>> series Encountering Bergman broadcast on BBC4 last summer. I want
>> certainly
>> to go to Gotland, on my way to Faro. Do you live there, if I may ask? I
>> am
>> in London.
>>
>>
>
> No, I live just outside Gothenburg actually so it is not even close.
> I�ve just been there a few times and frankly, I fell in love with the
> place at first sight and even had some wild thoughts of moving there at
> one point, but one has to make living too you know, so it never happen.
> Even though Visby is a small town there is anyhow very little activity
> going on during the winter season, so it is a bit tricky trying to make
> a living there unless you don�t have something that you could do from
> home.
>
> Oh, shame on me then... I who thought the festival was totally new.
> Well, there you see my true passion for Bergman :) I do like his early
> work the most though, the black and white period and personally I think
> that it�s right here that his true genius lies, but maybe it is because
> I like those older actors and storys the best.
>
> By the way, when, or if you visit Gotland and Visby and then if you�ll
> have some time left then take the bus to the Lummelunda Caves
> (Lummelundagrottorna) The bus stops right at the enterance. It�s a few
> km:s north of Visby, towards Faro. It�s a quite big cave system worth
> seeing... but it�s not always open to the public so also in this case
> you better make sure it�s open before just going there. Well, in case
> you happen to have some spare time that is. I�m not that fond of caves
> myself even if they are big, but anyhow, if you happens to be in the
> neighborhood it might be well worth a visit.
>
> Pete


From: ah on
Thank you very much for this link.



Yes, Uppsala, of course. I searched for Str�msberg in Google maps and found
4.

- Str�msberg, Tierp, Uppsala

- Str�msberg, Karlskrona, Blekinge

- Str�msberg, 66298 �m�l, V�stra G�taland

- Str�msberg station

I tried the four of them and in the end Str�msberg Tierp seems to me the
most probable, as it is North of Uppsala so it could perhaps be upland? But
it is just a guess, of course.



About Ransjo, I found Ransj�v�gen but I am not sure it is the one. About
Tureholm Castle, Google found a reference: from 1738, located in the
outskirts of Trosa. Trosa & Dillnas are both South West of Stockholm.



It looks like I am progressing, thanks to you all.



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ah



"Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra(a)suddenlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "ah" <anonewsgr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:13krbnnjb4mscc5(a)corp.supernews.com...
>>I looked for this place in Google maps but could not find it. Could a
>>Swedish person help me locate it, please?
>>
>> It is a place mentioned in Best Intentions, written by Ingmar Bergman and
>> directed by Bille August.
>
> You might check this Internet site.
> http://www.bergmanorama.com/films/best_intentions.htm
>
> The site says, "Filmed: on location in Uppsala, Str�msberg (Uppland),
> Ransj� (H�rjedalen), Tureholm Castle, Dilln�s (S�dermanland)."
>
> Have a good time on your visit.
>
> Joe in Texas
>
>>
>


From: tam on

>
>
> I have a great admiration for Bergman. Actually he is my soulmate, alter
> ego, god, cinemawise. I find his films extremely powerful. I feel
> everything strongly but don't have his genius to express myself. The day
> after he died, i.e. on the 31st of July 2007 we did a climb in the French
> Alps. I asked my alpinist friends that we dedicate the climb to Ingmar
> Bergman, and they all accepted. Just in case you would be interested, the
> photographs of the climb are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicc/sets.
> Bergman's climb is the Tsanteleina 3,606m.
>
You mean you admire the fact that he and his brother tried to murder their
baby sister--according to him.
Do you approve of the fact he had minimal to no contact with his{known} 9
offspring---perhaps though
they got the best of that bargain.
Tam



From: Ðr Freud on
On 07.12.2007 21:46 , ah wrote:
> I am not sure now if you'll ever read this, as this thread is starting to be
> a bit ancient but let's try anyway.
>
>
>
> Goteborg, yes, I have been there, long ago, I think that we took the ferry
> somewhere in Denmark (perhaps Frederickshavn?) and arrived in Goteborg then
> drove all the way to the North Cape through Norway and back across Finland &
> Sweden.
>
>
>
> I have a great admiration for Bergman. Actually he is my soulmate, alter
> ego, god, cinemawise. I find his films extremely powerful. I feel
> everything strongly but don't have his genius to express myself. The day
> after he died, i.e. on the 31st of July 2007 we did a climb in the French
> Alps. I asked my alpinist friends that we dedicate the climb to Ingmar
> Bergman, and they all accepted. Just in case you would be interested, the
> photographs of the climb are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicc/sets.
> Bergman's climb is the Tsanteleina 3,606m.
>
>
>
> Yes, I am interested in caves, thank you for the tip.
>
>
>

well... I was just about to ask you what hmhmhmhm..makes anyone climb
such a high mountain when you easily could fly even higher without any
effort at all... but after having seen the photos I kind of saw the
answer to that one.. really breathtaking. I�m sure he would have loved
that trip himself... and who knows... maybe he did.

After all...everything is possible, right?

Hope you�ll be having a real great trip to Faro & Gotland..

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