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From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on 10 Aug 2006 15:23 Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:01:13 +0100, > this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ > chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote: > > >Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hatunen writes: > >> > >> > Are youclaiming that everthing you post is reasonable? > >> > >> As far as I know, yes. > > > >Why are you lying? You know that a lot of what you post is bollocks. > >British tones, universal rules of music being among examples I remember > >particularly well. > > On several occasions I have credited Mixi with having a sense of > humor for some nonsense he has posted. He definitely has a sense of humour- it comes through every now and again. > I may have been a bit > hasty there. I'd agree- I don't think he's joking when he posts his various, uh, theories. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on 10 Aug 2006 15:48 Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and > deansgate writes: > > > You claimed universal rules in music (you did > > mention its tendency in something you loosely described as popular), and > > _never_ explained what they were. You said they were to do with physics. > > Frequencies of sound that relate to each other in small integer ratios > are pleasing to the ear. The larger the integers in the ratio, the > less pleasant the combination of frequencies. Non-integer ratios are > even worse, and frequencies that are relatively prime to each other > sound worst of all. Wrong. You're not stating anything which pertains to a 'universal rule' in music- not least because 'pleasing to the ear' and 'less pleasant' is meaningless, and depends on such things as cultural conditioning and taste. People also often 'like' the sound of bells for example (good example of inharmonic series), or cymbals, or even filtered whitenoise- which usually don't conform to what you wrote above. You're back where you started I'm afraid, but I'll give you a "C" for effort. In certain kinds of western music, octaves (1:2) can sound unpleasant or awkward. IOW, it depends on context- something which you patently don't get. > > You claimed that there were tones used in certain > > UK speech, and didn't identify them. > > I recall discussing intonation, not tones. Tones (TM) is the trademark I assigned to your thesis. You didn't discuss anything- you claimed they existed as some kind of phenomenon in UK English and didn't go any further when pressed. What are they, and who in England uses them, and what do they mean? > > I call you stupid because that's the persona you invent for yourself > > here. > > What you call me is unimportant. If you insist, I'll call you that to- you're unimportant. Happy now? > > I didn't feel the need to look anything up to criticise your idotic > > assertions about music. > > Perhaps that is why you still believe they are idiotic. Reading can > be a good thing. I've already pointed out you're talking bollocks above. You've actually displayed (wrt music) that you're a classic case of someone who reads a little, but doesn't understand even more. > > What are those 'universal' rules of music? If you actually answered that > > question, that would be a start. > > See above. You didn't answer the question. You made a fool of yourself. Try again? -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: barney2 on 10 Aug 2006 16:19 In article <201nd21iovpaham2d0vujsgm94pqdtoect(a)4ax.com>, mxsmanic(a)gmail.com (Mxsmanic) wrote: > *From:* Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> > *Date:* Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:10:43 +0200 > > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and > deansgate writes: > > > You claimed universal rules in music (you did > > mention its tendency in something you loosely described as popular), > > and > > _never_ explained what they were. You said they were to do with > > physics. > > Frequencies of sound that relate to each other in small integer ratios > are pleasing to the ear. The larger the integers in the ratio, the > less pleasant the combination of frequencies. Non-integer ratios are > even worse Why, then, is a major triad such as C4 E4 G4 (with ratios of C4:E4 1.259921 and E4:G4 1.189204) a building block of Western classical harmony - the kind I expect you like if your taste in architecture or art is anything to go by, not that it necessarily is - while the combination A0 A7, with an integer ratio of 128, is not heard terribly often?
From: Dave Frightens Me on 10 Aug 2006 16:23 On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:47 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote: >On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:07 +0100, The Reid ><dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote: > >>Following up to A Human Being >> >>>> not all events are recorded in history. >>> >>>But if they've happened they are history. >> >>if they are not recorded, there is no point of view or lack of >>it. > >And we have no way of knowing if they did, indeed, happen. "Well now history is a pack of lies, as any fool can tell" - Weddings, Parties, Anything - "A Tale They Won't Believe" (based on Robert Hughes The Fatal Shore) It really is an artists question. I have no way of knowing how many Jews the Nazis really gassed, how many died when Japan went into China, or how many follks Stalin's or Mao's policies slaughtered. To a fair extent, it's just statistics. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 10 Aug 2006 16:25
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:05:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Dave Frightens Me writes: > >> Thus if I agree with you all the time, I'm of high intelligence. > >No. Aren't you usually right? Surely that means we are both intelligent. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |