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From: barney2 on 10 Aug 2006 16:33 In article <nf5nd2dtbecnlu8cem3kcvscp4c8790r66(a)4ax.com>, padraigb(a)MUNGEDiol.ie (Padraig Breathnach) wrote: > *From:* Padraig Breathnach <padraigb(a)MUNGEDiol.ie> > *Date:* Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:25:12 +0100 > > barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: > > >Why, then, is a major triad such as C4 E4 G4 (with ratios of C4:E4 > >1.259921 and E4:G4 1.189204) a building block of Western classical > harmony >- the kind I expect you like if your taste in architecture or > art is >anything to go by, not that it necessarily is - while the > combination A0 >A7, with an integer ratio of 128, is not heard terribly > often? > > It's to do with the size of pianists' hands. Most have two. ;) Though IIRC somebody (Ravel? Debussy?) wrote a concerto for a one-handed pianist.
From: Dave Frightens Me on 10 Aug 2006 16:44 On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:48:30 +0100, this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote: >Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and >> deansgate writes: >> >> > You claimed universal rules in music (you did >> > mention its tendency in something you loosely described as popular), and >> > _never_ explained what they were. You said they were to do with physics. >> >> Frequencies of sound that relate to each other in small integer ratios >> are pleasing to the ear. The larger the integers in the ratio, the >> less pleasant the combination of frequencies. Non-integer ratios are >> even worse, and frequencies that are relatively prime to each other >> sound worst of all. > >Wrong. You're not stating anything which pertains to a 'universal rule' >in music- not least because 'pleasing to the ear' and 'less pleasant' is >meaningless, and depends on such things as cultural conditioning and >taste. People also often 'like' the sound of bells for example (good >example of inharmonic series), or cymbals, or even filtered whitenoise- >which usually don't conform to what you wrote above. You're back where >you started I'm afraid, but I'll give you a "C" for effort. In certain >kinds of western music, octaves (1:2) can sound unpleasant or awkward. >IOW, it depends on context- something which you patently don't get. I agree with all you say 'cept for the bit about bells. I hate the bells that ring out from our nearby church, but don't mind the trains that rattle past. >> > I call you stupid because that's the persona you invent for yourself >> > here. >> >> What you call me is unimportant. > >If you insist, I'll call you that to- you're unimportant. Happy now? If only it was so easy. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on 10 Aug 2006 19:06 Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and > deansgate writes: > > > There's a particular kind of usenet poster who thinks that if they > > rubbish everyone else with a fake veneer of calm, that this creates a > > good impression. > > Perhaps, although I don't see the relevance of that here. Cuz I was talking about you, numbnuts. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on 10 Aug 2006 19:22 <barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote: > In article <nf5nd2dtbecnlu8cem3kcvscp4c8790r66(a)4ax.com>, > padraigb(a)MUNGEDiol.ie (Padraig Breathnach) wrote: > > > *From:* Padraig Breathnach <padraigb(a)MUNGEDiol.ie> > > *Date:* Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:25:12 +0100 > > > > barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: > > > > >Why, then, is a major triad such as C4 E4 G4 (with ratios of C4:E4 > > >1.259921 and E4:G4 1.189204) a building block of Western classical > > harmony >- the kind I expect you like if your taste in architecture or > > art is >anything to go by, not that it necessarily is - while the > > combination A0 >A7, with an integer ratio of 128, is not heard terribly > > often? > > > > It's to do with the size of pianists' hands. > > Most have two. ;) Though IIRC somebody (Ravel? Debussy?) wrote a concerto > for a one-handed pianist. Ravel, Prokofiev, Britten, Rorem... The Ravel is a sublime piece IMO. I prefer it to the G major concerto (2 hands) and I love that piece too. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: barney2 on 10 Aug 2006 19:47
In article <1hjvptz.cbut3j148f4nwN%this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk>, this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote: > *From:* this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ > chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) > *Date:* Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:22:55 +0100 > > <barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote: > > > In article <nf5nd2dtbecnlu8cem3kcvscp4c8790r66(a)4ax.com>, > > padraigb(a)MUNGEDiol.ie (Padraig Breathnach) wrote: > > > > > *From:* Padraig Breathnach <padraigb(a)MUNGEDiol.ie> > > > *Date:* Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:25:12 +0100 > > > > > > barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: > > > > > > >Why, then, is a major triad such as C4 E4 G4 (with ratios of C4:E4 > > > >1.259921 and E4:G4 1.189204) a building block of Western classical > > > harmony >- the kind I expect you like if your taste in architecture > > > or > > > art is >anything to go by, not that it necessarily is - while the > > > combination A0 >A7, with an integer ratio of 128, is not heard > > > terribly > > > often? > > > > > > It's to do with the size of pianists' hands. > > > > Most have two. ;) Though IIRC somebody (Ravel? Debussy?) wrote a > > concerto > > for a one-handed pianist. > > Ravel, Prokofiev, Britten, Rorem... > > The Ravel is a sublime piece IMO. I prefer it to the G major concerto (2 > hands) and I love that piece too. Britten too? And I thought I knew pretty much all significant Britten (no European-travel pun intended)! I'll check it out - thanks. |