From: Padraig Breathnach on
Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>The only time I've seen people parade their credentials is when they
>don't actually know what they are talking about.

That's a wild claim, and I don't believe it. If you have a college
education, you received instruction from people whose credentials are
very much in the foreground. Is it invariably the case that they don't
know what they are talking about?

Further, what qualification have you to judge whether or not people
know what they are talking about?

And further to further, what is your experience of people who don't
know what they are talking about, but who have no credentials to
parade?

People who participate in discussions here generally do not parade
their credentials, but we are pretty good about talking about things
that we don't actually know.

It's late here: time to lie down.

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From: Mxsmanic on
Padraig Breathnach writes:

> That's a wild claim, and I don't believe it. If you have a college
> education, you received instruction from people whose credentials are
> very much in the foreground. Is it invariably the case that they don't
> know what they are talking about?

Yes. People who know what they are talking about ... talk about it.
They don't need to wave credentials in an attempt to prove that they
can talk about something, because they can do that very easily by
actually discussing the topic in question. People who don't know what
they are talking about have nothing to say, and thus depend on
credentials to get acceptance from others.

I've met too many college-educated people who cannot read.

> Further, what qualification have you to judge whether or not people
> know what they are talking about?

It depends on the subject.

> And further to further, what is your experience of people who don't
> know what they are talking about, but who have no credentials to
> parade?

Sometimes they talk, sometimes they don't.

> People who participate in discussions here generally do not parade
> their credentials, but we are pretty good about talking about things
> that we don't actually know.

I've seen both.

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From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on
Mxsmanic a couch sur son cran :
> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
>
>> Did that happen only once ?
>
> It has happened on many occasions.

Fine. And what about injection calculators ? or electronic cruise
controls (which also manage injection ?)

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From: Terry Richards on

"Stanislas de Kertanguy" <stanislas.dekertanguy(a)lesptt.net> wrote in message
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> Mxsmanic a formul ce Saturday :
> > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
> >
> >> OK, so I infer that injection calculators don't have antivirus software
> >> because it would destabilize tham ?
> >
> > They don't have it because they don't need it.
>
> You first said that they destabilise the system, but whatever...
>

Antivirus programs do have a tendancy to destabalise systems. But not, in
general, as badly as the viruses do. In other words, just like human drugs,
their benefits outweigh their side-effects.

> Why don't injecion calculators need antivirus ?
>

For the same reason that you do not need inoculating against viruses on
Mars - you have no opportunity to catch them. Injection computers do not
connect to the Internet or any other external computer[1] so they have no
opportunity to be infected with a virus.

[1] Actually, they do connect with another computer when they are serviced
but that is a dedicated stand-alone device also running trusted code and not
connected to any other computer. There is a theoretical infection path
here - from the Internet to the developer's computer, to the code for the
service machine, to the service machine, to the injection controller, but
that would have to be one smart virus!

T.


From: Terry Richards on
"JohnT" <johnhillriseDONOTSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> my
> refrigerator doesn't contact the outside world so is probably safe from
> attack.
>

How about when it is serviced?

Not entirely absurd, I had a washing machine repaired under warranty and the
fix was a code upload...

T.