From: Hatunen on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:41:09 +0200, Tim C.
<tim.challenger(a)aon.at> wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:27:34 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>There are many forms of competition that seem civilized enough to me.
>>Sport is unique in that it is competition that serves no useful
>>purpose ... and it isn't always civilized.
>
>It can be seen as a stylised version of warfare. In that sense it
>serves a very useful purpose.

When has sport ever stopped a war? On the other hand it has
started at least one war: the Central American Soccer War.

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From: Hatunen on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:59:25 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:27:34 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Dave Frightens Me writes:
>>
>>> Sport provides a civilised means of competition. This is of enormous
>>> value, as the British empire demonstrated.
>>
>>Sport was of enormous value to the British Empire?
>
>Yes. Read and you will learn.

As we all know, the Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing
fields of Eton.

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From: Hatunen on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:57:42 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>A Human Being writes:
>
>> So are midgets and people over 7 ft tall. Why aren't they paid just as
>> much as professional models or basketball or football players?
>
>For sports figures, it's because they are not exhibited on television.
>Television provides virtually all the money earned in professional
>sports. Sports that do not interest television networks pay very
>poorly indeed. When a sport manages to negotiate television rights
>for its activities, it suddenly becomes very flush with cash; if an
>established sport loses its broadcasting agreements, it may very
>nearly go bankrupt.
>
>For models, well, professional models aren't paid very well to begin
>with, despite illusions to the contrary. There are a few in the USA
>who can command high hourly rates, but not many. Models outside the
>USA often don't get rich even when they are popular, as the big money
>is in places like New York.

Most football players aren't paid very wellk, it at all, either.
National Football League players are only a small, but highly
visible subset, of all football players. Ditto for baseball
players. Ditto for soccer players.

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From: Hatunen on
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:46:47 +0100,
this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:

>The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy
>> of city south and deansgate
>>
>> >Most realtors aren't top-earners.
>>
>> am I alone in not liking that word? Its odd to say in my accent.
>> I prefer estate agent, assuming they are the same thing?
>
>Apparently not, which I didn't know. I just thought realtor was an
>americanism...

As I mentioned in another post, "Realtor" is a trademarked name
for a member of America's National Association of Realtors, which
includes only a minority of American real estate agents, so, yes,
it is an Americanism, and it is a largely wrongfully used
Americanism, even in America.

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From: A Human Being on

Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:27:34 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Dave Frightens Me writes:
> >
> >> Sport provides a civilised means of competition. This is of enormous
> >> value, as the British empire demonstrated.
> >
> >Sport was of enormous value to the British Empire?
>
> Yes. Read and you will learn.
>
> >There are many forms of competition that seem civilized enough to me.
> >Sport is unique in that it is competition that serves no useful
> >purpose ... and it isn't always civilized.
>
> The purpose it serves is slighty abstract, so I don't expect you to
> understand, but I will give you a chance.
>
> Tensions are much better released on the playing field than at war.
> Simple as that really.
>
> >> Then you would have a heap of unemployed soldiers and arms
> >> manufacturers, so the point is moot.
> >
> >That's better than having a heap of dead soldiers.
>
> History says otherwise.

According to me history doesn't say anything. Its just events that
happened. But what according to you does history say, since you think
it does ?



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