From: Jim Ley on
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:54:03 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:41:09 +0200, Tim C.
><tim.challenger(a)aon.at> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:27:34 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>There are many forms of competition that seem civilized enough to me.
>>>Sport is unique in that it is competition that serves no useful
>>>purpose ... and it isn't always civilized.
>>
>>It can be seen as a stylised version of warfare. In that sense it
>>serves a very useful purpose.
>
>When has sport ever stopped a war?

That's a stupid question, it's like asking when has good government
ever stopped a war - there obviously are not going to be a point where
you can go, there were these two armies facing each other shooting at
each other, and then they stopped and had a game of football.

It doesn't work like that.

Jim.
From: jeremyrh.geo on

The Reid wrote:
> Following up to Gregory Morrow
>
> >When has an athlete
> >ever been known to be a great thinker?
>
> Camus played in goal for Algeria.

Wittgenstein played in midfield for Germany.

Or do I mean Beckenbauer...

B;

From: A Human Being on

Hatunen wrote:
> On 6 Aug 2006 01:58:43 -0700, "A Human Being"
> <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Hatunen wrote:
> >> On 5 Aug 2006 11:48:10 -0700, "A Human Being"
> >> <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> >> >> On 2 Aug 2006 08:28:19 -0700, "A Human Being"
> >>
> >> >So are midgets and people over 7 ft tall. Why aren't they paid just as
> >> >much as professional models or basketball or football players?
> >>
> >> Professional athletes are paid what the owners think is
> >> reasonable for the number of tickets they will be responible for
> >> selling.
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >> If you want to blmae someone for their high salaries,
> >> blame the fans, who are willing to pay the inflated seat prices
> >> to see them perform. Ditto for some like Madonna.
> >
> >Why are those fans willing to pay such inflated prices ?
> >
> >> How much are you personally willing to pay for tickets to see a
> >> midget or a seven-footer (unless, of course, the seven-footer is
> >> ace at ball-handling and scoring from the three-point line).
> >
> >Why aren't they as popular as Madonna ?
>
> >> How much are you willing to pay a second grade teacher?
> >
> >Much more than what they get now, enough to make it all worthwhile and
> >keep them interested in teaching . A society's future depends on the
> >people who take care of its basic needs - teachers, health
> >professionals, builders and the like , even the refuge collectors. I
> >rate them much higher than Madonna or the basketball players.
>
> I didn't ask what society was willing to pay; I asked what YOU
> were willing to pay.

I did answer and I gave the reason why.

> >>You will
> >> do they paying, after all, through your taxes. Are you willing to
> >> pay that teacher $100,000 a year, quadrupling your taxes?
> >
> >If the govt spent the money wisely and a lot of wasteful practices were
> >curbed, the teachers could get much better salaries without an increase
> >in taxation. But the problem in a nanny state is that the population is
> >not free to have their say and affect the govt's decisions. They lost
> >that freedom quite a while ago.

> You're evading the question:

I am not. You expect me to give a straight yes or no reply to a
complicated problem. It seems the ultimate aim of the question was just
to corner the person you are discussing with and not understand the
situation and where the solution lay.

> are you willing to quadruple your taxes
>so that public school teachers can earn, say, $100,000 per
> year?

No, I cannot afford to quadruple my taxes but I am willing to pay the
teachers I am in direct contact with more for their efforts than they
get now provided the money goes to them directly.

> And a lot of that unwisely spent money is due to the bloated
> infrastructure that the federal government demands. I suggest you
> run for your local school board.

Thanks for suggestion.

From: A Human Being on

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate wrote:
> A Human Being <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> []
> > > As you know what his CV looks like, why do you believe he's poor?
> >
> > A complex set of circumstances. It happens to other people too.
>
> Yes, it does, and they don't constantly bang on about the inferiority of
> other nations, professions and how a whole continent doesn't understand
> the meaning of wealth, etc. If they did it here in r.t.e. they'd be
> treated the same way as Mixi.

Are you the owner of r.t.e and the people who post here your slaves who
must do your bidding and express only the opinions you like ? Is this a
place where people are free to air their views? Or like a nanny state
is this a nanny controlled group where every view uttered should be
politically correct ?
Strange that you are against negative behaviour and indulge in it
yourself.
Some time ago when I was taking my little one to school I was walking
behind a woman who was taking her son to the same school. The little
one got upset about something and cried a little and she yelled at him
so loud to behave himself, that all the people around came to a
standstill . She let out a series of expletives and people shook their
heads at her. She was trying to discipline her child while being a
perfect example of out of control person herself.

>
> --
> David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org

From: Padraig Breathnach on
"A Human Being" <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
>deansgate wrote:

>> Yes, it does, and they don't constantly bang on about the inferiority of
>> other nations, professions and how a whole continent doesn't understand
>> the meaning of wealth, etc. If they did it here in r.t.e. they'd be
>> treated the same way as Mixi.
>
>Are you the owner of r.t.e and the people who post here your slaves who
>must do your bidding and express only the opinions you like ? Is this a
>place where people are free to air their views? Or like a nanny state
>is this a nanny controlled group where every view uttered should be
>politically correct ?
>Strange that you are against negative behaviour and indulge in it
>yourself.

This post has been composed by somebody with no sense of irony but who
can be hilariously funny.

--
PB
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