From: A Human Being on

Hatunen wrote:
> On 7 Aug 2006 02:18:28 -0700, "A Human Being"
> <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Hatunen wrote:
> >> On 6 Aug 2006 01:58:43 -0700, "A Human Being"
> >> <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Hatunen wrote:
> >>
> >> >> How much are you willing to pay a second grade teacher?
> >> >
> >> >Much more than what they get now, enough to make it all worthwhile and
> >> >keep them interested in teaching . A society's future depends on the
> >> >people who take care of its basic needs - teachers, health
> >> >professionals, builders and the like , even the refuge collectors. I
> >> >rate them much higher than Madonna or the basketball players.
> >>
> >> I didn't ask what society was willing to pay; I asked what YOU
> >> were willing to pay.
> >
> >I did answer and I gave the reason why.
>
> Please read the paragraph above which starts "much more than they
> get now.." and tell me how that says how much you are willing to
> pay. How much more is "much more"?

Its not an exact amount but varies from place to place.

> You're the one giving simplistic answers like they ought to get
> paid more.

yes that's my opinion .

> I'm asking you to put your figurative money where your
> figurative mouth is.

All the teachers of the world don't teach me or my kids only so I alone
am not responsible for paying them.

> How much can you pay them? $200 a year?

I don't live in the US.

>A thouand dollars? Can
> you get them anywhere close to a good salary?

How many are `them' ? Please state the exact number of teachers being
talked about.

>What would you
> consider a good salary for a second grade teacher?

Depends on the country, place of residence and cost of living and their
pay in relation to it.

>For a high
> school math teacher? Would you pay a high school math teacher
> more thatn a high school geography teacher?

No.

> This is the problem. Everyone says teachers ought to get more,
> but no one wants to foot the bill. In the USA teachers are
> largely paid through local property taxes and attempts by schools
> to raise those taxes, which generally requires a ballot issue,
> are almost universally met by failure.

Reasons?

From: A Human Being on

Hatunen wrote:
> On 8 Aug 2006 16:27:20 -0700, "A Human Being"
> <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Hatunen wrote:
> >> On 7 Aug 2006 06:02:33 -0700, "A Human Being"
> >> <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >History doesn't draw any conclusions for us. It only tells us about the
> >> >events that happened . Its people who look for a moral in a story.
> >>
> >> All history is written from a point of view.
> >
> >Not necessarily.
>
> As a human being it is impossible to not have one. You,
> especially, should know that.

I do, which is why I said not necessarily.


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From: A Human Being on

The Reid wrote:
> Following up to A Human Being
>
> >Both words mean the same thing, though its true `pack' is used to
> >denote a group of hyenas, wolves etc.
>
> "pack" of wolves, dogs, submarines is an *offensive* hunting
> group, as in "hunting as a pack"."Herd" is a more *passive* group
> of animals, often farmed.
> If you think all group words mean the same,

I meant all words such as pack, herd etc suggest a group or collection.

> do you refer to a
> deck of wolves or a herd of playing-cards?

If the wolves could be decked and the playing- cards herded then I
would.


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From: A Human Being on

Padraig Breathnach wrote:
> "A Human Being" <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hatunen wrote:
>
> >> All history is written from a point of view.
> >
> >Not necessarily.
> >
> Necessarily, even though many historians try to eliminate bias.

That's your opinion, you are entitled to it. Mine differs.
>
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From: A Human Being on

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate wrote:
> A Human Being <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
> > deansgate wrote:
> > > A Human Being <justahumanbeing1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> > > []
> > > > > As you know what his CV looks like, why do you believe he's poor?
> > > >
> > > > A complex set of circumstances. It happens to other people too.
> > >
> > > Yes, it does, and they don't constantly bang on about the inferiority of
> > > other nations, professions and how a whole continent doesn't understand
> > > the meaning of wealth, etc. If they did it here in r.t.e. they'd be
> > > treated the same way as Mixi.
> >
> > Are you the owner of r.t.e and the people who post here your slaves who
> > must do your bidding and express only the opinions you like ?
>
> Of course I am. What would make you think otherwise?

Nothing. just wanted to confirm if bullies try to rule here.

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