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From: Runge17 on 16 Nov 2009 16:30 Yawn. "Martin" <me(a)address.invalid> a �crit dans le message de news:slrtf5ltptfhqrf2n0s19pkmnbcmb6v0r7(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:51:01 +0100, Tom P <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote: > >>erilar wrote: >>> In article <Darkstar87695.41llrb(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com>, >>> Darkstar87695 <Darkstar87695.41llrb(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey everyone, I'm an 18 year old from Florida and I have always wanted >>>> to travel. In a few years I will be taking a summer to go to Europe. I >>>> will be backpacking from Greece all the way to the UK. I have not >>>> finished planning this trip and will be using this site for that also, >>>> but i have a quick question for everyone. Would a hend held GPS be a >>>> good investment for this trip? and if so then which one do u suggest?:D >>> >>> Well, it depends on how you plan to use it. I have one I take hiking >>> and I took it along on some trips to Europe. It's a Garmin eTrex. >>> Narrow streets with tall buildings can make it lose its satellites, but >>> if I've marked my starting point, I can always get back to it by getting >>> out into the open to get my bearing, even if it has gaps in the route >>> I've followed to get there.. However, you should also have a map with >>> points of interest you might want to visit. The kind that actually have >>> maps are not going to have as much detail as an actual paper map offers, >>> so I just got a basic one to use WITH paper maps. >>> >>> Note: it's been particularly useful for me because local guides have a >>> tendency to walk too fast and leave me behind. >>> >> I also have a Garmin eTrex but I find that the battery life is too >>short to be useable on longer trips. You have to plan on recharging the >>batteries every single day. > > The solution I used on a boat with a Garmin 12XL battery gobbler was not > to have > it switched on all the time. > > -- > > Martin > >
From: Alfred Molon on 16 Nov 2009 17:40 In article <RPhMm.24899$Gd3.22598(a)newsfe16.ams2>, Keith Willshaw says... > > Given that you could still buy photographic glass plates more than > a century after they were 'superseded' by film I wouldnt hold > your breath. Maybe in some very specialised stores. It's just a matter of time, and film will disappear from most places. I also hear that the number of places processing film is continuosly shrinking. -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe
From: Mike Lane on 16 Nov 2009 18:10 Tim C. wrote on Nov 16, 2009: > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:19:09 +0100, Martin wrote in post : > <news:t762g596lcpovh3qs6rhs5ia77s0udvbh3(a)4ax.com> : > >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:12:13 +0100, "Tim C." <spamtrap(a)tele2.at> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:43:24 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote in post : >>> <news:MPG.25680d84af9484a98c1b3(a)news.supernews.com> : >>> >>>> Indeed, but that is life. But do you really want to go back to the days >>>> when there was no Internet and no email? >>> >>> On holiday, yes. :-) >> >> We must be the last. > > I take a mobile phone on the bike for emergencies, and to phone home in the > evening so the family knows I'm safe. And a Nikon SLR and recently a Holux > logger (1xAA battery) and that's it. If I want to be contacted I even turn > the phone on, normally it's off. If I want to get any news(which I normally > don't, maybe the weather forecast), I buy a local paper and try and work it > out. I think there's a middle way. I don't much like mobile phones and never make calls when abroad, but I quite like the idea of keeping in touch with text messages. It's quite cheap and beats the old business of sending dozens of postcards. I absolutely love digital photography though. Only ten years ago I was taking 2 or 3 rolls of 35mm film with me on holiday which would end up as a pile of prints looked at once or twice and then consigned to a shoe box where they still remain - never looked at. Since going digital I have hundreds of images recording every holiday in great detail which I regularly look at and enjoy. -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire email: mike_lane at mac dot com
From: d4g4h4 on 16 Nov 2009 19:44 Mike Lane <mike.lane.usenet(a)ntlworld.co.uk> wrote: > Tim C. wrote on Nov 16, 2009: [] > > I take a mobile phone on the bike for emergencies, and to phone home in the > > evening so the family knows I'm safe. And a Nikon SLR and recently a Holux > > logger (1xAA battery) and that's it. If I want to be contacted I even turn > > the phone on, normally it's off. If I want to get any news(which I normally > > don't, maybe the weather forecast), I buy a local paper and try and work it > > out. > > I think there's a middle way. I don't much like mobile phones and never make > calls when abroad, but I quite like the idea of keeping in touch with text > messages. It's quite cheap and beats the old business of sending dozens of > postcards. That might be your middle way. I loathe SMS, and don't respond to them. I don't like voicemail either- indeed, I leave a message on my work number that it's better to email me. I hardly use my mobile phone, and usually don't carry it now. When travelling, I take my laptop, which has mobile internet via a USB dongle. I have an ipod touch which I love, and am contemplating an iphone, though I wouldn't give anyone its number, so I could use it just for the internet capability. -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
From: Keith Willshaw on 16 Nov 2009 20:04
"Alfred Molon" <alfred_molon(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:MPG.256bf3508bd13bff98c1bf(a)news.supernews.com... > In article <RPhMm.24899$Gd3.22598(a)newsfe16.ams2>, Keith Willshaw says... >> >> Given that you could still buy photographic glass plates more than >> a century after they were 'superseded' by film I wouldnt hold >> your breath. > > Maybe in some very specialised stores. It's just a matter of time, and > film will disappear from most places. > In time the human race will become extinct In time the sun will become a red giant. > I also hear that the number of places processing film is continuosly > shrinking. Indeed but then as somebody who used to process his own film I realise that this will not prevent its use. Film will and arguably has already become a niche market but I suspect you will be able to buy stock and get it processed for some decades to come. Keith |