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From: Runge17 on 16 Nov 2009 16:30
"Martin" <me(a)address.invalid> a �crit dans le message de
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:51:01 +0100, Tom P <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote:
>>> In article <Darkstar87695.41llrb(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com>,
>>> Darkstar87695 <Darkstar87695.41llrb(a)no-mx.forums.travel.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey everyone, I'm an 18 year old from Florida and I have always wanted
>>>> to travel. In a few years I will be taking a summer to go to Europe. I
>>>> will be backpacking from Greece all the way to the UK. I have not
>>>> finished planning this trip and will be using this site for that also,
>>>> but i have a quick question for everyone. Would a hend held GPS be a
>>>> good investment for this trip? and if so then which one do u suggest?:D
>>> Well, it depends on how you plan to use it. I have one I take hiking
>>> and I took it along on some trips to Europe. It's a Garmin eTrex.
>>> Narrow streets with tall buildings can make it lose its satellites, but
>>> if I've marked my starting point, I can always get back to it by getting
>>> out into the open to get my bearing, even if it has gaps in the route
>>> I've followed to get there.. However, you should also have a map with
>>> points of interest you might want to visit. The kind that actually have
>>> maps are not going to have as much detail as an actual paper map offers,
>>> so I just got a basic one to use WITH paper maps.
>>> Note: it's been particularly useful for me because local guides have a
>>> tendency to walk too fast and leave me behind.
>> I also have a Garmin eTrex but I find that the battery life is too
>>short to be useable on longer trips. You have to plan on recharging the
>>batteries every single day.
> The solution I used on a boat with a Garmin 12XL battery gobbler was not
> to have
> it switched on all the time.
From: Alfred Molon on 16 Nov 2009 17:40
In article <RPhMm.24899$Gd3.22598(a)newsfe16.ams2>, Keith Willshaw says...
> Given that you could still buy photographic glass plates more than
> a century after they were 'superseded' by film I wouldnt hold
> your breath.
Maybe in some very specialised stores. It's just a matter of time, and
film will disappear from most places.
I also hear that the number of places processing film is continuosly
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From: Mike Lane on 16 Nov 2009 18:10
Tim C. wrote on Nov 16, 2009:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:19:09 +0100, Martin wrote in post :
> <news:t762g596lcpovh3qs6rhs5ia77s0udvbh3(a)4ax.com> :
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:12:13 +0100, "Tim C." <spamtrap(a)tele2.at> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:43:24 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote in post :
>>> <news:MPG.25680d84af9484a98c1b3(a)news.supernews.com> :
>>>> Indeed, but that is life. But do you really want to go back to the days
>>>> when there was no Internet and no email?
>>> On holiday, yes. :-)
>> We must be the last.
> I take a mobile phone on the bike for emergencies, and to phone home in the
> evening so the family knows I'm safe. And a Nikon SLR and recently a Holux
> logger (1xAA battery) and that's it. If I want to be contacted I even turn
> the phone on, normally it's off. If I want to get any news(which I normally
> don't, maybe the weather forecast), I buy a local paper and try and work it
I think there's a middle way. I don't much like mobile phones and never make
calls when abroad, but I quite like the idea of keeping in touch with text
messages. It's quite cheap and beats the old business of sending dozens of
I absolutely love digital photography though. Only ten years ago I was taking
2 or 3 rolls of 35mm film with me on holiday which would end up as a pile of
prints looked at once or twice and then consigned to a shoe box where they
still remain - never looked at. Since going digital I have hundreds of images
recording every holiday in great detail which I regularly look at and enjoy.
UK North Yorkshire
email: mike_lane at mac dot com
From: d4g4h4 on 16 Nov 2009 19:44
Mike Lane <mike.lane.usenet(a)ntlworld.co.uk> wrote:
> Tim C. wrote on Nov 16, 2009:
> > I take a mobile phone on the bike for emergencies, and to phone home in the
> > evening so the family knows I'm safe. And a Nikon SLR and recently a Holux
> > logger (1xAA battery) and that's it. If I want to be contacted I even turn
> > the phone on, normally it's off. If I want to get any news(which I normally
> > don't, maybe the weather forecast), I buy a local paper and try and work it
> > out.
> I think there's a middle way. I don't much like mobile phones and never make
> calls when abroad, but I quite like the idea of keeping in touch with text
> messages. It's quite cheap and beats the old business of sending dozens of
That might be your middle way. I loathe SMS, and don't respond to them.
I don't like voicemail either- indeed, I leave a message on my work
number that it's better to email me.
I hardly use my mobile phone, and usually don't carry it now. When
travelling, I take my laptop, which has mobile internet via a USB
dongle. I have an ipod touch which I love, and am contemplating an
iphone, though I wouldn't give anyone its number, so I could use it just
for the internet capability.
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"[Do you think the world learned anything from the first
world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
From: Keith Willshaw on 16 Nov 2009 20:04
"Alfred Molon" <alfred_molon(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> In article <RPhMm.24899$Gd3.22598(a)newsfe16.ams2>, Keith Willshaw says...
>> Given that you could still buy photographic glass plates more than
>> a century after they were 'superseded' by film I wouldnt hold
>> your breath.
> Maybe in some very specialised stores. It's just a matter of time, and
> film will disappear from most places.
In time the human race will become extinct
In time the sun will become a red giant.
> I also hear that the number of places processing film is continuosly
Indeed but then as somebody who used to process his own film
I realise that this will not prevent its use.
Film will and arguably has already become a niche market but I suspect
you will be able to buy stock and get it processed for some decades