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From: Jean O'Boyle on 3 Aug 2008 20:52 "Joan" <cruiser(a)teluss.net> wrote in message news:5mdc941op2h2jtp8ajedb6ib4f4gmfgof8(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:28:24 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle" > <j.oboyle(a)removefudged.sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>I just could not stand by and abandon someone who was in trouble, Kurt..I >>could not live with myself if I did. >>--Jean >> > Right, so imagine how the other bus passengers are feeling right now. > Do you think they sipping champagne and celebrating because they > survived? Not a chance. This will affect them for the rest of their > lives. Not only did they witness a gruesome act, but they will feel > guilty for not being able to help the victim, and they will feel > guilty for surviving. I'm sure all of them have replayed this scene > over and over again, wondering if they could have done something to > help. > > You cannot possibly know what you would have done in this situation, > and you cannot possibly know what the other passengers saw, heard, > thought, and did or did not do. Be thankful that you can sit in the > safety of your home and proclaim your heroism. Pray that you will > never be put to the test. But don't for a minute suggest that any of > the bus passengers did anything wrong by not saving the victim! > > Joan WHOA! I was not there...you were not there so let's stop the judgmental stuff! As an RN who worked the psychiatric wing for over a year and a half, I am very well aware how traumatized everyone had to be on that bus. I only expressed that I was concerned with the non-caring attitude that I see each day..one human towards another. I hope that was not the case on this bus...Not long ago, the TV news showed over and over a man who was struck by a car and left lying there while several other cars hit him and NO ONE went out to stop traffic and help him even though there were many people on the sidewalks viewing this horrible scene.. These are the things that disturb me. Some people would do more for a stray dog! I still would come to someone's aid if they were in trouble but I am not stupid to think I could do something against some one bearing a gun or a knife and I am not proclaiming heroism...just caring about my fellow human beings...so knock it off. --Jean
From: Jean O'Boyle on 3 Aug 2008 21:07 "Goomba" <Goomba38(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:6fn002Fccop4U1(a)mid.individual.net... > Jean O'Boyle wrote: > >> I just could not stand by and abandon someone who was in trouble, Kurt..I >> could not live with myself if I did. >> Put yourself in the victim's place and see how helpless they are. One of >> my sons is a police officer and I am sure he would not want me to put >> myself in harm's way, but I still feel that I must do something when >> another human being is being harmed. Sometimes the perp does not think >> anyone will react and is counting on it. >> >> --Jean > Not to interrupt you patting yourself on the back but the first lesson > rescuers (to include your son the policeman) learn is to assess the > situation as being safe for you to enter. Your rushing in (as admirable as > you want to be) may be doing nothing productive to the situation and in > fact might cause more trouble. You could be adding to the burden when you > also are harmed and now the trained rescuers have two victims to deal with > instead of one. LOL! I am NOT patting myself on the back...for crying out loud and who said I would be rushing in? I am talking about CARING about others when they are in trouble...I am not that stupid that I would react foolishly against anyone with a knife or gun. ALL I am saying that too often in this world, people do not want to get involved when some one is in trouble or hurt. You come off as a know it all...my son has over 22 years as a police officer and has been on the SWAT team and has done undercover work for ten of them....so spare me all your so called wisdom! --Jean
From: Goomba on 3 Aug 2008 21:28 Jean O'Boyle wrote: > LOL! I am NOT patting myself on the back...for crying out loud and who said > I would be rushing in? I am talking about CARING about others when they are > in trouble...I am not that stupid that I would react foolishly against > anyone with a knife or gun. ALL I am saying that too often in this world, > people do not want to get involved when some one is in trouble or hurt. You > come off as a know it all...my son has over 22 years as a police officer and > has been on the SWAT team and has done undercover work for ten of them....so > spare me all your so called wisdom! > > --Jean > Reread what you wrote- ...."but I still feel that I must do something when another human being is being harmed. Sometimes the perp does not think anyone will react and is counting on it." How can I come off as a know-it-all when I've barely posted here? LOL Are you making that judgment based on my one post? Perhaps it is all *my* years in trauma work? Maybe *I* do know a few things...eh?
From: Jean O'Boyle on 3 Aug 2008 21:57 "Goomba" <Goomba38(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:6fn4abFc6lrdU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Reread what you wrote- > ..."but I still feel that I must do something when > another human being is being harmed. Sometimes the perp does not think > anyone will react and is counting on it." > > How can I come off as a know-it-all when I've barely posted here? LOL Are > you making that judgment based on my one post? > Perhaps it is all *my* years in trauma work? Maybe *I* do know a few > things...eh? And I stand by those words, but I would do it with wisdom and depending on the circumstance as to what action it would require to cause minimal harm to all involved...but I would not walk away. I am not inexperienced in trauma work either. --Jean
From: James on 3 Aug 2008 23:02
> > As an RN who worked the psychiatric wing for over a year and a half, I am > very well aware how traumatized everyone had to be on that bus.> --Jean Now I remember you! Nurse Ratched--Oregon State Hospital. You killed Mcmurphy. |