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From: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) on 26 Jul 2010 15:38


Martin wrote:
> On 26/07/10 01:20, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>>
>> vorange wrote:
>>> Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
>>> July 16, 2010
>>>
>>> Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
>>> deportations of Roma from Denmark.
>> What is/are "Roma"? One might equate "Roma" with "Romany" (i.e.
>> gypsies) but in that case why would Hindus be involved?
>
> and why cross post to so many groups?

In hopes of an answer by the original poster?
From: hari.kumar on 26 Jul 2010 16:21
"Nordic countries have been more hostile to non-white immigrants than
any other region of Europe. (Iceland has non-white immigration close to
zero)."

I don't know about iceland, but using norway as an example the link
below is what I have read about such matters and it comfirms same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway

> The rom, or gypsies started on their western migration perhaps as long
> as 1500 years ago from s. asia. [...]
> In europe their religion tends to be that of the region in which they
> reside so any support for their plight of clear oppression in many
> places has nothing to concern a hindu "authorty" then any oppression
> anywhere. Is this "authority" speaking of oppression in africa or
even
> in s. asia?

"The Roma need all the friends they can get. Might help if the Hindu
fundies could supply them with a few nukes they could point in the
general direction of Bratislava, Zagreb, Bucharest and my local
council's office in Dalkeith."

I could not agree with you more. Is there in the uk a distinction made
between rom and so called "travelers"? Or is that more limited to
ireland?

I see you are in scotland. I have been reading with great pleasure the
series of books about a detective named rebus in your part of the world.
Do you know these books?
From: Jack Campin - bogus address on 26 Jul 2010 17:01
> I see you are in scotland. I have been reading with great pleasure the
> series of books about a detective named rebus in your part of the world.
> Do you know these books?

Ian Rankin's stuff. Yes, but I haven't read much of it - the only
crime writer I read a lot of is Barbara Nadel (the Turkish-set ones).
I know Rankin's settings very well.

He's certainly widely known. I was sitting in the bus station
in Diyarbakir (south-east Turkey) with my girlfriend as she was
reading an Ian Rankin book. One locals came up, pointed to her
book, and said "Ah, Rankeeen!" - he must have been well known there.
(I suppose Diyarbakir is basically not all that different from
Edinburgh - it just has better food and tanks in the streets).

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From: tim.... on 26 Jul 2010 18:07

<hari.kumar(a)indero.com> wrote in message
news:4c4dee4c$0$11059$1c4686b2(a)news.club.cc.cmu.edu...
> "Nordic countries have been more hostile to non-white immigrants than
> any other region of Europe. (Iceland has non-white immigration close to
> zero)."

You can't lump them all together.

The brit who took over my apartment in Sweden had moved there, with his
Chinese wife and kid, because that was the only country [1] who would let
her in (including his own)!

He had previous tried Denmark, but was chucked out.

tim

[1] Presumably from the set of countries who tolerate employing English
speaking workers.


From: Hatunen on 26 Jul 2010 19:52
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:29:33 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bogus(a)purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> "As money is a big question the general feeling is turning against these
>> migrants and their problems, begging on the streets, prostitution, petty
>> crimes. In Finland begging is being made illegal so that these people
>> could be deported legally. Now that even Hindu politicians are showing
>> interest the question turns more and more complex. After all, these
>> people came originally from India a few hundred years ago, but are now
>> EU citizens."
>> So the reason for deportation are civil and legal not ethnic in and of
>> themselves. The nordic countries have accepted many ethnic groups
>> clearly so another factor had to be at work.
>
>Nordic countries have been more hostile to non-white immigrants than
>any other region of Europe. (Iceland has non-white immigration close
>to zero).


Finland had quite a few black African immigrants whom they rather
quaintly call "Ethiopians" regardless of origin.

See Miss Finland 1996:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_Wallinkoski

>
>> The rom, or gypsies started on their western migration perhaps as long
>> as 1500 years ago from s. asia. [...]
>> In europe their religion tends to be that of the region in which they
>> reside so any support for their plight of clear oppression in many
>> places has nothing to concern a hindu "authorty" then any oppression
>> anywhere. Is this "authority" speaking of oppression in africa or even
>> in s. asia?
>
>The Roma need all the friends they can get. Might help if the Hindu
>fundies could supply them with a few nukes they could point in the
>general direction of Bratislava, Zagreb, Bucharest and my local
>council's office in Dalkeith.
>
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