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From: Runge 124 on 27 Jul 2010 01:38
to attract nosy bored people like you.

"Martin" <martin(a)invalid.invalid> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : i2jfuc$6s4$3(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On 26/07/10 01:20, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>>
>>
>> vorange wrote:
>>> Hindus ask Denmark to stop Roma deportations
>>> July 16, 2010
>>>
>>> Hindus are asking for immediate end to reportedly forcible mass
>>> deportations of Roma from Denmark.
>>
>> What is/are "Roma"? One might equate "Roma" with "Romany" (i.e.
>> gypsies) but in that case why would Hindus be involved?
>
> and why cross post to so many groups?

From: Valtsu on 27 Jul 2010 07:34
hari.kumar(a)indero.com wrote:
> "As money is a big question the general feeling is turning against these
> migrants and their problems, begging on the streets, prostitution, petty
> crimes. In Finland begging is being made illegal so that these people
> could be deported legally. Now that even Hindu politicians are showing
> interest the question turns more and more complex. After all, these
> people came originally from India a few hundred years ago, but are now
> EU citizens."
>
> So the reason for deportation are civil and legal not ethnic in and of
> themselves. The nordic countries have accepted many ethnic groups
> clearly so another factor had to be at work.
>
That is how it is supposed to look. All political parties demandin
stiffer measures against immigrating roma speak only of nationals of
Romania, Slovakia etc. as they don't want to be labelled as racists.
Natutrally this then turns into discrimination of say romanians of
Romania and bulgarians of Bulgaria etc. which are not roma, but
distinctively of different race than the finns. The diplomats,
businessmen, legal construction workers and so on are also beginning to
have a bad time in Finland.


> The rom, or gypsies started on their western migration perhaps as long
> as 1500 years ago from s. asia. They went not only west into europe but
> into central asia also. It is a clear example of a western movement of
> an indueuropian language moving counter the movemnt in history.
>
> In europe their religion tends to be that of the region in which they
> reside so any support for their plight of clear oppression in many
> places has nothing to concern a hindu "authorty" then any oppression
> anywhere. Is this "authority" speaking of oppression in africa or even
> in s. asia?

Quite true. The roma population of Finland is lutheran, of Romania
orthodox etc. All romas are supposed to speak their native language
roma, but with separation of centuries the roma language of today is not
the same all over Europe. The ca. 10.000 Finnish roma do not understand
the language of Romanian roma and they lack all feelings of unity with
roma from former socialist countries.
From: Gregory Morrow on 2 Aug 2010 21:45
On Jul 26, 1:29 pm, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bo...(a)purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > "As money is a big question the general feeling is turning against these
> > migrants and their problems, begging on the streets, prostitution, petty
> > crimes. In Finland begging is being made illegal so that these people
> > could be deported legally. Now that even Hindu politicians are showing
> > interest the question turns more and more complex. After all, these
> > people came originally from India a few hundred years ago, but are now
> > EU citizens."
> > So the reason for deportation are civil and legal not ethnic in and of
> > themselves.  The nordic countries have accepted many ethnic groups
> > clearly so another factor had to be at work.
>
> Nordic countries have been more hostile to non-white immigrants than
> any other region of Europe.  (Iceland has non-white immigration close
> to zero).


Then explain that daily non - stop Pakistan Airlines flight from
Islamabad to Oslo...

:-)

Sweden is also rife with non - white immigrants, especially in places
like Malmo...


>
> > The rom, or gypsies started on their western migration perhaps as long
> > as 1500 years ago from s. asia. [...]
> > In europe their religion tends to be that of the region in which they
> > reside so any support for their plight of clear oppression in many
> > places has nothing to concern a hindu "authorty" then any oppression
> > anywhere.  Is this "authority" speaking of oppression in africa or even
> > in s. asia?
>
> The Roma need all the friends they can get.  Might help if the Hindu
> fundies could supply them with a few nukes they could point in the
> general direction of Bratislava, Zagreb, Bucharest and my local
> council's office in Dalkeith.


LOL...

--
Best
Greg


From: Gregory Morrow on 2 Aug 2010 21:46
On Jul 26, 2:21 pm, hari.ku...(a)indero.com wrote:
> "Nordic countries have been more hostile to non-white immigrants than
> any other region of Europe.  (Iceland has non-white immigration close to
> zero)."
>
> I don't know about iceland, but using norway as an example the link
> below is what I have read about such matters and it comfirms same.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway
>
>
>
> > The rom, or gypsies started on their western migration perhaps as long
> > as 1500 years ago from s. asia. [...]
> > In europe their religion tends to be that of the region in which they
> > reside so any support for their plight of clear oppression in many
> > places has nothing to concern a hindu "authorty" then any oppression
> > anywhere.  Is this "authority" speaking of oppression in africa or
> even
> > in s. asia?
>
> "The Roma need all the friends they can get.  Might help if the Hindu
> fundies could supply them with a few nukes they could point in the
> general direction of Bratislava, Zagreb, Bucharest and my local
> council's office in Dalkeith."
>
> I could not agree with you more.  Is there in the uk a distinction made
> between rom and so called "travelers"?  Or is that more limited to
> ireland?


There are Irish "travellers" working scams here in the US, including
here in Chicago...

--
Best
Greg

From: Martin on 3 Aug 2010 05:17
On 03/08/10 03:46, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> There are Irish "travellers" working scams here in the US, including
> here in Chicago...

and Nigerian entrepreneurs are active everywhere, even in the Church of
the Red Breast.
http://www.419eater.com/html/joe_eboh.htm
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