From: eIeIo on 7 Jun 2007 04:26
"Jr." <me(a)meagain.com> wrote in message > "skipfromla"
<skipfromla(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:03:09 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle"
>>>"skipfromla" <skipfromla(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> Friend of mine just got back from a combo
land tour and spent 7 days of a 12 day Alaskan cruise
on Holland America's Volendam. Tips were supposed to
have been included in the price of the cruise at the
rate of $10 per day per person on the cruise.
>>>> Once aboard they were told that 70% of the tips
>>>> included in the price of the cruise went to
>>>> people who worked in the background, not to the
>>>> people they were in contact with, cabin stewards,
>>>> waiters, bus boys,
etc. The ship recommended that these people be tipped
in addition to the tips already charged in the bill
for their cruise..
>>>> It appears Holland America has involved itself in
>>>> some deceptive business practices by telling
>>>> people all the tips are included in the price and
>>>> then changing the rules once the cruise starts.
Doubtful my friends will be cruising on any Holland
America ship again.
>>>I think that your friends misunderstood...The tips
>>>on all the HAL cruises
>>>that we have taken were $10 a day and never were
>>>included in the price of
>>>the cruise; but posted on our shipboard account in
>>>the amount of $10. pp.
>>>per day.. Only the bar staff got tipped 15% on any
>>>drinks that were
>>>purchased...I do not believe the ship recommended
>>>that the cabin stewards,
>>>waiters, asst. waiters, etc. be tipped again...We
>>>usually tip over the
>>>amount if someone deserves it because of
>>>Something just does not sound right here and I
>>>can't help but believe that
>>>it was a misunderstanding.
>> I made an error when I said that the $10 per day
>> per person were
>> included in the price of the cruse. They were
>> automatically added to
>> their shipboard account, of which, they were told
>> 70% goes to the
>> behind he scenes people and then recommended that
>> the personal servers
>> and room stewards be tipped in addition. No
>> Because something was in effect a couple of years
>> ago, a year ago or 6
>> months ago, it doesn't mean it will stay that way
>> forever. If you
>> can't believe it, believe what you like instead.
> On Princess we are told up front before we book that
> tips of $10 per day per person are added to our
> shipboard account for tips.
> Once on the ship we are advised that if we receive
> outstanding service from a cabin steward or waiter,
> etc. that there are envelopes available for us to
> use for additional tips but this is purely optional.
> I think this is what HAL was trying to tell you
Just having come back from cruise to Bermuda, two
nights before return, RCCL presented an authorization
form for us to sign, deducting said tips from our
SeaPass. A much better solution, in my opinion. You
could add more than stated, for exceptional service,
in the envelopes provided, with a printed "Thank You"
note for their redemption. I assume this as proof
positive, a means for the staff to receive the actual
amount deducted from our account for their service.
From: bob wald on 7 Jun 2007 17:56
tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free
money.i'll start tipping.lol
i'll keep you posted thou.lol
usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks.
From: Brian K on 7 Jun 2007 18:18
On 6/7/2007 5:56 PM bob wald exclaimed:
> tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free
> money.i'll start tipping.lol
> i'll keep you posted thou.lol
> usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks.
one in every crowd. :-P
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From: Annie on 7 Jun 2007 18:32
On Jun 7, 6:18 pm, Brian K <brianBLOG1...(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 6/7/2007 5:56 PM bob wald exclaimed:> tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free
> > money.i'll start tipping.lol
> > i'll keep you posted thou.lol
> > usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks.
> one in every crowd. :-P
> To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address.
> Brian M. Kochera
> "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!"
> View My Web Page:http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951
I did agree with one of the earlier posts though. Phone cards are a
great idea for "tipping". But yes, I definitely did not take tips into
account on the last cruise I went on.
I think $10 a day is standard. I went on Norwegian and it was the
same, with extra 15% service charge for beverages and meals. If you
happened to get great service, its worth it. Otherwise do what Brian
From: Annie on 7 Jun 2007 18:34
> Otherwise do what Brian
By Brian, I meant Bob of course.