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From: eIeIo on 7 Jun 2007 04:26

"Jr." <me(a)meagain.com> wrote in message > "skipfromla"
<skipfromla(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:03:09 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle"
wrote:

>>>"skipfromla" <skipfromla(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>message

>>>> Friend of mine just got back from a combo
>>>> cruise/
land tour and spent 7 days of a 12 day Alaskan cruise
on Holland America's Volendam. Tips were supposed to
have been included in the price of the cruise at the
rate of $10 per day per person on the cruise.
>>>> Once aboard they were told that 70% of the tips
>>>> included in the price of the cruise went to
>>>> people who worked in the background, not to the
>>>> people they were in contact with, cabin stewards,
>>>> waiters, bus boys,
etc. The ship recommended that these people be tipped
in addition to the tips already charged in the bill
for their cruise..
>>>> It appears Holland America has involved itself in
>>>> some deceptive business practices by telling
>>>> people all the tips are included in the price and
>>>> then changing the rules once the cruise starts.
Doubtful my friends will be cruising on any Holland
America ship again.
>>>
>>>I think that your friends misunderstood...The tips
>>>on all the HAL cruises
>>>that we have taken were $10 a day and never were
>>>included in the price of
>>>the cruise; but posted on our shipboard account in
>>>the amount of $10. pp.
>>>per day.. Only the bar staff got tipped 15% on any
>>>drinks that were
>>>purchased...I do not believe the ship recommended
>>>that the cabin stewards,
>>>waiters, asst. waiters, etc. be tipped again...We
>>>usually tip over the
>>>amount if someone deserves it because of
>>>exceptional service.
>>>Something just does not sound right here and I
>>>can't help but believe that
>>>it was a misunderstanding.
>>>
>>>--Jean
>>>
>>
>> I made an error when I said that the $10 per day
>> per person were
>> included in the price of the cruse. They were
>> automatically added to
>> their shipboard account, of which, they were told
>> 70% goes to the
>> behind he scenes people and then recommended that
>> the personal servers
>> and room stewards be tipped in addition. No
>> misunderstanding.
>>
>> Because something was in effect a couple of years
>> ago, a year ago or 6
>> months ago, it doesn't mean it will stay that way
>> forever. If you
>> can't believe it, believe what you like instead.
>>
>>
> On Princess we are told up front before we book that
> tips of $10 per day per person are added to our
> shipboard account for tips.
> Once on the ship we are advised that if we receive
> outstanding service from a cabin steward or waiter,
> etc. that there are envelopes available for us to
> use for additional tips but this is purely optional.
> I think this is what HAL was trying to tell you
> also.

Just having come back from cruise to Bermuda, two
nights before return, RCCL presented an authorization
form for us to sign, deducting said tips from our
SeaPass. A much better solution, in my opinion. You
could add more than stated, for exceptional service,
in the envelopes provided, with a printed "Thank You"
note for their redemption. I assume this as proof
positive, a means for the staff to receive the actual
amount deducted from our account for their service.


From: bob wald on 7 Jun 2007 17:56
tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free
money.i'll start tipping.lol
i'll keep you posted thou.lol
usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks.

From: Brian K on 7 Jun 2007 18:18
On 6/7/2007 5:56 PM bob wald exclaimed:
> tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free
> money.i'll start tipping.lol
> i'll keep you posted thou.lol
> usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks.
>
>
one in every crowd. :-P

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From: Annie on 7 Jun 2007 18:32
On Jun 7, 6:18 pm, Brian K <brianBLOG1...(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 6/7/2007 5:56 PM bob wald exclaimed:> tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free
> > money.i'll start tipping.lol
> > i'll keep you posted thou.lol
> > usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks.
>
> one in every crowd. :-P
>
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I did agree with one of the earlier posts though. Phone cards are a
great idea for "tipping". But yes, I definitely did not take tips into
account on the last cruise I went on.

I think $10 a day is standard. I went on Norwegian and it was the
same, with extra 15% service charge for beverages and meals. If you
happened to get great service, its worth it. Otherwise do what Brian
does.

From: Annie on 7 Jun 2007 18:34
> Otherwise do what Brian
> does.

By Brian, I meant Bob of course.

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