From: eIeIo on 7 Jun 2007 04:26 "Jr." <me(a)meagain.com> wrote in message > "skipfromla" <skipfromla(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:03:09 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle" wrote: >>>"skipfromla" <skipfromla(a)yahoo.com> wrote in >>>message >>>> Friend of mine just got back from a combo >>>> cruise/ land tour and spent 7 days of a 12 day Alaskan cruise on Holland America's Volendam. Tips were supposed to have been included in the price of the cruise at the rate of $10 per day per person on the cruise. >>>> Once aboard they were told that 70% of the tips >>>> included in the price of the cruise went to >>>> people who worked in the background, not to the >>>> people they were in contact with, cabin stewards, >>>> waiters, bus boys, etc. The ship recommended that these people be tipped in addition to the tips already charged in the bill for their cruise.. >>>> It appears Holland America has involved itself in >>>> some deceptive business practices by telling >>>> people all the tips are included in the price and >>>> then changing the rules once the cruise starts. Doubtful my friends will be cruising on any Holland America ship again. >>> >>>I think that your friends misunderstood...The tips >>>on all the HAL cruises >>>that we have taken were $10 a day and never were >>>included in the price of >>>the cruise; but posted on our shipboard account in >>>the amount of $10. pp. >>>per day.. Only the bar staff got tipped 15% on any >>>drinks that were >>>purchased...I do not believe the ship recommended >>>that the cabin stewards, >>>waiters, asst. waiters, etc. be tipped again...We >>>usually tip over the >>>amount if someone deserves it because of >>>exceptional service. >>>Something just does not sound right here and I >>>can't help but believe that >>>it was a misunderstanding. >>> >>>--Jean >>> >> >> I made an error when I said that the $10 per day >> per person were >> included in the price of the cruse. They were >> automatically added to >> their shipboard account, of which, they were told >> 70% goes to the >> behind he scenes people and then recommended that >> the personal servers >> and room stewards be tipped in addition. No >> misunderstanding. >> >> Because something was in effect a couple of years >> ago, a year ago or 6 >> months ago, it doesn't mean it will stay that way >> forever. If you >> can't believe it, believe what you like instead. >> >> > On Princess we are told up front before we book that > tips of $10 per day per person are added to our > shipboard account for tips. > Once on the ship we are advised that if we receive > outstanding service from a cabin steward or waiter, > etc. that there are envelopes available for us to > use for additional tips but this is purely optional. > I think this is what HAL was trying to tell you > also. Just having come back from cruise to Bermuda, two nights before return, RCCL presented an authorization form for us to sign, deducting said tips from our SeaPass. A much better solution, in my opinion. You could add more than stated, for exceptional service, in the envelopes provided, with a printed "Thank You" note for their redemption. I assume this as proof positive, a means for the staff to receive the actual amount deducted from our account for their service.
From: bob wald on 7 Jun 2007 17:56 tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free money.i'll start tipping.lol i'll keep you posted thou.lol usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks.
From: Brian K on 7 Jun 2007 18:18 On 6/7/2007 5:56 PM bob wald exclaimed: > tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free > money.i'll start tipping.lol > i'll keep you posted thou.lol > usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks. > > one in every crowd. :-P -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951
From: Annie on 7 Jun 2007 18:32 On Jun 7, 6:18 pm, Brian K <brianBLOG1...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > On 6/7/2007 5:56 PM bob wald exclaimed:> tipping is a scam..i tell them. if people just start giving me free > > money.i'll start tipping.lol > > i'll keep you posted thou.lol > > usually they put thier hand out n i shake it n say thanks. > > one in every crowd. :-P > > -- > ________ > To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. > Brian M. Kochera > "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" > View My Web Page:http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 I did agree with one of the earlier posts though. Phone cards are a great idea for "tipping". But yes, I definitely did not take tips into account on the last cruise I went on. I think $10 a day is standard. I went on Norwegian and it was the same, with extra 15% service charge for beverages and meals. If you happened to get great service, its worth it. Otherwise do what Brian does.
From: Annie on 7 Jun 2007 18:34 > Otherwise do what Brian > does. By Brian, I meant Bob of course.
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