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From: Mxsmanic on 27 Feb 2010 09:51
What do you think?

I was reading some numbers that show that a huge number of airlines went out
of business after deregulation in the U.S., and since deregulation, very few
airlines have thrived for long periods.

Add that to pilots being overworked and underpaid (and sometimes incompetent
and underqualified), plus airlines being encouraged to cut corners on safety
to save money, and it doesn't paint a very positive picture.
From: William Black on 27 Feb 2010 11:27

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> What do you think?
>
> I was reading some numbers that show that a huge number of airlines went
> out
> of business after deregulation in the U.S., and since deregulation, very
> few
> airlines have thrived for long periods.
>
> Add that to pilots being overworked and underpaid (and sometimes
> incompetent
> and underqualified), plus airlines being encouraged to cut corners on
> safety
> to save money, and it doesn't paint a very positive picture.

Have \the statistical chances of being on an aircraft that has a serious
accident gone up?

Have the prices gone up faster than inflation?

If not then why bother?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

From: Bert Hyman on 27 Feb 2010 13:31
In news:99cio5dcug1eioreknpacos9js327kh8bc(a)4ax.com Mxsmanic
<mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Add that to pilots being overworked and underpaid (and sometimes
> incompetent and underqualified), plus airlines being encouraged to cut
> corners on safety to save money, and it doesn't paint a very positive
> picture.

Other than pilot pay, all the other aspects of the industry you name are
still regulated. I don't know who might be "encouraging" airlines to cut
corners on safety, other than the airline's own management.

For those outfits which choose to ignore them, regulations, like laws,
only have an effect after they're violated and someone's caught at it.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert(a)iphouse.com
From: Mxsmanic on 27 Feb 2010 14:22
William Black writes:

> Have \the statistical chances of being on an aircraft that has a serious
> accident gone up?

No, right now the probability is stable.

> Have the prices gone up faster than inflation?

No, prices are lower than they've ever been.

> If not then why bother?

Because it's almost impossible to make money in the airline business, and
sooner or later safety will suffer from endless cost-cutting.
From: William Black on 28 Feb 2010 03:23

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> William Black writes:
>
>> Have \the statistical chances of being on an aircraft that has a serious
>> accident gone up?
>
> No, right now the probability is stable.
>
>> Have the prices gone up faster than inflation?
>
> No, prices are lower than they've ever been.
>
>> If not then why bother?
>
> Because it's almost impossible to make money in the airline business, and
> sooner or later safety will suffer from endless cost-cutting.

Look idiot, nobody cares what you think (for a very low value of 'think')

Wait until something happens or someone who actually is a senior figure in
the industry or the major regulating agency says something and get back to
us.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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