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From: Cathy L on 20 Sep 2006 07:55 On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:20:08 +0200, Martin <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >On 19 Sep 2006 10:45:56 -0700, "oconnell(a)slr.orl.lmco.com" ><oconnell(a)slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote: > >>Frank F. Matthews wrote: >>> Iceman wrote: >>> >>> > Cathy L wrote: >>> > >>> >>We were so looking forward to having Italian bread in Italy. How >>> >>dissapointed we were to find how tasteless it was. The breads in >>> >>France and Germany were superb! >>> > >>> > >>> > Next time try the bread at an actual neighborhood Italian bakery >>> > instead of a tourist trap restaurant where they bring bus tours. >>> > >>> >>> Actually I would say that bread is the weak point of Italian cooking. >>> Some is decent but the overall quality is fairly weak. >> >> As compared to what? Many of the basis of comparisons of the >>people around here might make it "amongst" the best varieties >>they've had. > >The same thought occurred to me. As far as Italian bread recipes >always contain oil goes, I googled about 20 Italian bread recipes as >opposed to pizza bread recipes and found only one that had oil as an >ingredient. So people agree with me. It seems like the Italian recipe lacks something. Cathy L
From: Miss L. Toe on 20 Sep 2006 08:19 "Martin" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:p1b2h2t8gqh61hucc2olv79i0sp4pflssh(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:38:35 +0200, Giovanni Drogo > <drogo(a)rn.bastiani.ta.invalid> wrote: > > > >There were no ciabatte in the UK nor in Italy 20 years ago when I lived > >there. Ciabatta, like tartaruga, is one of the new "fashion" sorts of > >bread introduced recently. > > It is supposed to have been invented by the British baking industry > around 1984 according to the answer to a question in a Christmas Quiz > in British newspaper. So BRITISH BREAD RULZ ! Actually I think that british cakes and pastry are much better than the bread.
From: Giovanni Drogo on 20 Sep 2006 09:11 On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Martin wrote: > >there. Ciabatta, like tartaruga, is one of the new "fashion" sorts of > >bread introduced recently. > > It is supposed to have been invented by the British baking industry > around 1984 according to the answer to a question in a Christmas Quiz > in British newspaper. And did they call it ciabatta in italian ? Did they know what it means ? BTW the timing is all right. There were no ciabatte in Italy (except in shoe shops or electrical appliance shop maybe) when I left it in 1979, nor in the UK when I left it in 1982, and I guess I saw the first ones after I returned to Italy in 1985. .... very curious, I looked up google images to show you what a ciabatta is and has always been (a kind of shoe, compare http://www.rogansshoes.com/MaelstromCart/Images/Site32/Women_s_Glide.jpg) and I had to skim pages of ciabatta bread before encountering a real ciabatta. I even encountered a couple of "jargon" ciabatte before (like this http://www.simplyline.it/immagini/ciabatta_10.jpg) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nospam(a)mi.iasf.cnr.it is a newsreading account used by more persons to avoid unwanted spam. Any mail returning to this address will be rejected. Users can disclose their e-mail address in the article if they wish so.
From: Ian Burton on 20 Sep 2006 13:01 <oconnell(a)slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message news:1158687956.679785.111750(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > Frank F. Matthews wrote: >> Iceman wrote: >> >> > Cathy L wrote: >> > >> >>We were so looking forward to having Italian bread in Italy. How >> >>dissapointed we were to find how tasteless it was. The breads in >> >>France and Germany were superb! >> > >> > >> > Next time try the bread at an actual neighborhood Italian bakery >> > instead of a tourist trap restaurant where they bring bus tours. >> > >> >> Actually I would say that bread is the weak point of Italian cooking. >> Some is decent but the overall quality is fairly weak. > > As compared to what? Many of the basis of comparisons of the > people around here might make it "amongst" the best varieties > they've had. For many non-Italians it's the lack of salt they find disturbing. Tuscan bread is made with none. My favorite is the pane pugliese. It should be available in any bread shop in Italy, not only in Puglia. -- Ian Burton (Please reply to the Newsgroup)
From: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) on 20 Sep 2006 13:00
Miss L. Toe wrote: >>I am sorry to say that I rank UK as the worst for bread. > > > The ciabatta that sainsburys sell is great ! > Pre-packaged braed from mass-production bakerires in the U.S. is pretty bad, too (although since so many American super markets have their own bakery departments, and sell so many so-called "Artisan" breads, it has improved somewhat). > |