From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:44:06 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:56:25 -0700,
>"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Dave Frightens Me wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:47:18 +0100,
>>> this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>>> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>David, you frequently don't understand what I'm saying, although I'm
>>>>>not sure just why! :o)
>>>>
>>>>I didn't understand what you said about the US. As far as I can see,
>>>>it's societal pressure there which helps the ban works where it's in
>>>>effect. If Americans all blindly obeyed the law, drivers wouldn't exceed
>>>>the speed limit, for one example.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we get into murky territory there, because speeding comes down
>>> largely to enforcement, of which American cops are probably a whole
>>> lot better at!
>>>
>>> I was passing comment on the differences between US and Italian
>>> culture in regards to the observation of laws. An unpopular law is
>>> much more likely to be observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion.
>>
>>Ummm...... remember Prohibition? IIRC, that was even a
>>Constitutional ammendment, but more observed in the breach
>>by most Americans of the time. (Although it's true America
>>has become far more a nation of sheep than it was then.)
>
>I guess that explains why no American under the age fifty has
>ever used marijuana. And why there is no longer any moonshine
>being distilled in the Appalachian hills. And no oe drives over
>the speed limit. And why there are no kids smoking cigarettes. Or

Oddly all of that applies in Italy to, except for the moonshine bit.

Are you just trying to be disagreeable here by any chance?
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:10:39 +0100,
this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:

>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:30:06 +0100,
>> this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>>
>> >B Vaughan <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:10:03 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
>> >> <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I was passing comment on the differences between US and Italian
>> >> >culture in regards to the observation of laws. An unpopular law is
>> >> >much more likely to be observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think you know the US very well.
>> >
>> >That's what I've been thinking too, so I'm glad I'm not the only one.
>>
>> Why did you even add that comment?
>
>Because I had been wondering if I was the only person reading who
>thought that way.

I would never claim my opinions/observations/etc represent common the
consensus. You can be sure some of your view will differ as well as
agree with mine. Wondering is not necessary!
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:38:17 +0200, B Vaughan<me(a)privacy.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:14:26 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
><deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:21:07 +0200, B Vaughan<me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:10:03 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
>>><deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I was passing comment on the differences between US and Italian
>>>>culture in regards to the observation of laws. An unpopular law is
>>>>much more likely to be observed in the USA than Italy in my opinion.
>>>
>>>I don't think you know the US very well. Enforcement of many laws is
>>>much more rigorous in the US than in Italy, and it is that, and public
>>>opinion that keeps people on the straight and narrow.
>>
>>Ummm... isn't that consistent with what I was saying?
>
>No, you said that Americans didn't care what other people think about
>their behavior. In fact, they probably care even more than Italians.

That would depend completely on how you looked at it...

>If the neighbors are annoyed by a dog that barks all day while the
>owners are at work, an American will cave into the pressure, while an
>Italian will let that dog keep barking until somebody poisons it.

....and this is an example of such!
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:22:18 +0100,
this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:

>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>[]
>> I know we can go round and round in circles with this stuff, because
>> it does of course depend on exactly how we interpret each others
>> words, but it does pass the time and give David something to get
>> snappy about!
>
>I'm not snappy, but I think you're really talking rubbish on this
>particular issue, that's all.

You mean you consider some of my comments of merit?

*savours warm fuzzy feeling*
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From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on
Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:22:18 +0100,
> this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>
> >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >
> >[]
> >> I know we can go round and round in circles with this stuff, because
> >> it does of course depend on exactly how we interpret each others
> >> words, but it does pass the time and give David something to get
> >> snappy about!
> >
> >I'm not snappy, but I think you're really talking rubbish on this
> >particular issue, that's all.
>
> You mean you consider some of my comments of merit?

Wouldn't that be obvious? I've agreed with you on plenty of things
before. You're being rather precious today IMO.

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