From: James Silverton on
Hello, barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk!
You wrote on Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:57:20 -0500:

??>> *From:* this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne,
??>> _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
??>> deansgate) *Date:* Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:30:05 +0100
??>>
??>> Ian Burton <notvalid(a)notvalid.com> wrote:
??>>
??>>> I've never come across these soldiers in the US. I'm
??>>> even more surprised I've never heard my close friends in
??>>> Yorkshire mention them.
??>>
??>> It could be a Scottish thing. For all I know, it could
??>> even be a Clackmannanshire thing!

I was brought up in Scotland but, as far I remember until this
discussion, I only once came across the term and that was in one
of those quaint British "country house" mystery stories! It did
not seem worth the trouble to find out what they were. For a
while, I would have thought that eating soft-boiled eggs might
have been less popular because of the reaction against
cholesterol but I gather that eggs are now *in* again, within
the traditional limits imposed by physicians changing their
minds :-)


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

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From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on
James Silverton <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote:

> Hello, barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk!
> You wrote on Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:57:20 -0500:
>
> ??>> *From:* this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne,
> ??>> _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
> ??>> deansgate) *Date:* Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:30:05 +0100
> ??>>
> ??>> Ian Burton <notvalid(a)notvalid.com> wrote:
> ??>>
> ??>>> I've never come across these soldiers in the US. I'm
> ??>>> even more surprised I've never heard my close friends in
> ??>>> Yorkshire mention them.
> ??>>
> ??>> It could be a Scottish thing. For all I know, it could
> ??>> even be a Clackmannanshire thing!
>
> I was brought up in Scotland but, as far I remember until this
> discussion, I only once came across the term and that was in one
> of those quaint British "country house" mystery stories! It did
> not seem worth the trouble to find out what they were. For a
> while, I would have thought that eating soft-boiled eggs might
> have been less popular because of the reaction against
> cholesterol but I gather that eggs are now *in* again, within
> the traditional limits imposed by physicians changing their
> minds :-)

I remember the term from the 70s, and I grew up on a council estate, not
in a country house! :)

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From: Hatunen on
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:30:35 +0200, B Vaughan<me(a)privacy.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:21:32 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:36:01 +0200, B Vaughan<me(a)privacy.net>
>>wrote:
>
>>>Here's how I make a quart of iced tea in the summer:
>
>I guess you didn't see the above.
>
>>In Arizona you'll need to make more than two cups.
>
>I steep the tea leaves in 2 cups of boiling water, then later add two
>cups of cold water.

In Arizona you'll need to make more than a quart.

************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Hatunen on
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:53:39 -0700, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Hatunen wrote:
> don't care.
>>
>> Smokers are far more rabid than non-smokers, but, of course, the
>> smokers are addicted and the non-smokers aren't. Because of their
>> addiction, the smokers will squack the loudest and it will appear
>> to restaurant and bar owners that they are in teh majority. Which
>> of course they are as far as bars and restaurants go since the
>> non-smokers tend to stay away. That doesn't, ipso facto, make the
>> smokers the majority.
>
>That may be the case for some non smokers, but I buy into
>the view that there are people who go out and drink and
>smoke and bars make money off them, and then there are those
>clean livers who don't smoke and drink.

The fallacey of the excluded middle. There are many people who
don't smoke and do drink, but they are likely to not spend as
much time in smokey bars.

>My personal
>experience is that there is a higher percentage of smokers
>on bars than in the rest of the population.

I won't argue with that, bars tending to select for smokers.


>> >Oh I an quite sure that he imagined it, just like all the other anti smokers who have a
>> >pickle up their butts.
>>
>> Better a pickle up your butt than a monkey on your back.
>
>It's not an either / or situation.

Now you decide that?

>There are those with
>monkeys on their backs and those who have hissy fits over
>other people smoking. I had referred specifically to a
>situation, though I don't think it is a unique one, where
>someone spoiled what could have been a nice meal in a
>restaurant by ranting and raving over one person smoking in
>the far end of a restaurant. I couldn't smell it. My wife
>who has never smoked in her life and who suffers from
>allergies including tobacco, was unaffected.

You seem to want to make your whole case on ranters and ravers.
I'm sorry they spoiled your dinner, but I've had many dinners
spoiled by cigarette smoke, too.

>> The lingering smell is certainly not unpleasant to a smoker, or
>> to a recently quit smoker. In fact, the lingering smell is one of
>> the things that will coax a quitter to decide he or she would
>> like a ciggy, just one, of course, every now and then.
>
>I think smokers find it unpleasant too. An effective
>motivation to quit smoking is to sniff a dirty ash tray.

Great joke, but it doesn't really work.

>> But once you're quit long enough to purge your body, and it can
>> be a year or so, the lingering smoke becomes a genuine irritant.
>> Despite decades of heavy smoking, the two decades since I quit
>> have "cleansed" me enough that even a hint of cigarettte smoke
>> gives me an incredible headache.
>
>Some ex smokers are the most annoying non smokers because
>they have to invent the irritation to reinforce their
>quitting.

Shame. How dare you claim I might be inventing the irritation. I
can't invent the red eyes that come with the headache.

>> There are two main effects of my quitting: food tastes a lot
>> better than it used to and my sense of smell has become acute,
>> and, unfortunately, the two decades of quit haven't allowed my
>> lungs to be properly restored and I have been dignosed with
>> moderate COPD. I'm really hoping I'm not going to have to trudge
>> around with an oxygen bottle in future.
>
>And then there are people like a friend of mine who dropped
>dead at the age of 52.

My father dropped dead at 38 of a coronary occlusion. So?

>Her lungs were in good enough shape
>that someone benefited from a transplant.

Maybe so. But I've heard enough stories from

>Her father, who
>never smoked in his life and who avoided cigarette smoke but
>who ended up with lung cancer.

Nice anecdote, but singular anecdotes don't prove a thing. The
link from smoking to assorted forms of COPD is solid.

Perhaps her father got lung cancer from second hand smoke. The
link from smoking to cancer is statatistical, and in statistics
there are always exceptions to the probabilities; that's why
they're called probabilities.

************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: poldy on
In article
<Pine.LNX.4.61.0609251001000.11906(a)cbfrvqba.ynzoengr.vans.vg>,
Giovanni Drogo <drogo(a)rn.bastiani.ta.invalid> wrote:

> > Or what they use to make panini?
> > Thought about getting a panini
>
> Blue pen mistake ! You were getting one "paninO" (singular). Or two (or
> more) "paninI" (plural). Of course "imbottito/i" (filled).

They always serve them with two slices of bread in the US.

Also seen it served that way in Paris too.

So it should technically be plural if it's suppose to be referring to
the bread instead of the whole sandwich?