From: Cathy L on
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:03:10 -0500, erilar
<drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> I don't know about Italian bread, but it can't be as bad as dry French
>bread, which was about all I got there. Germany, Austria,
>Scandinavia--that's where you get GREAT bread!

I can really agree about Germany and Austria. They have really great
breads!

Cathy L
From: Dave Smith on
erilar wrote:

> I don't know about Italian bread, but it can't be as bad as dry French
> bread, which was about all I got there. Germany, Austria,
> Scandinavia--that's where you get GREAT bread!

It's unfortunate that you didn't have good bread in France. I have very
good memories of great baguettes there. The best best i ever had in my life
came from a bakery just inside the border with Switzerland between Lausanne
and Geneva. It was incredible. I was however disappointed when I returned
to France and the baguettes that they served with their breakfast buffet
were substandard. Danish breads were outstanding, as were all their baked
goods. On my first trip to Europe we were only in Italy for one night and
the bread was not great, which surprised me because there are lots of
Italian bakeries around her that make great Italian bread. The continental
breakfast at the hotel was a stale roll. I was not impressed. The only
other continental breakfast we had was on my last trip and we were in
Ypres. Breakfast was coffee, juice, a roll and a sweet pastry. The roll was
soft and delicious. The pastry was divine.


From: Frank F. Matthews on


Dave Smith wrote:

> erilar wrote:
>
>
>> I don't know about Italian bread, but it can't be as bad as dry French
>>bread, which was about all I got there. Germany, Austria,
>>Scandinavia--that's where you get GREAT bread!
>
>
> It's unfortunate that you didn't have good bread in France. I have very
> good memories of great baguettes there. The best best i ever had in my life
> came from a bakery just inside the border with Switzerland between Lausanne
> and Geneva. It was incredible. I was however disappointed when I returned
> to France and the baguettes that they served with their breakfast buffet
> were substandard. Danish breads were outstanding, as were all their baked
> goods. On my first trip to Europe we were only in Italy for one night and
> the bread was not great, which surprised me because there are lots of
> Italian bakeries around her that make great Italian bread. The continental
> breakfast at the hotel was a stale roll. I was not impressed. The only
> other continental breakfast we had was on my last trip and we were in
> Ypres. Breakfast was coffee, juice, a roll and a sweet pastry. The roll was
> soft and delicious. The pastry was divine.
>
>

In my experience the bread in France was quite good. It simply lacked
endurance. If you couldn't finish it within 1/2 day of purchase feed it
to the birds.
From: James Silverton on
"Frank F. Matthews" <frankfmatthews(a)houston.rr.com> wrote in
message news:MUSRg.23343$4B3.17964(a)tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> erilar wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I don't know about Italian bread, but it can't be as bad as
>>> dry French
>>>bread, which was about all I got there. Germany, Austria,
>>>Scandinavia--that's where you get GREAT bread!
>>
>>
>
> In my experience the bread in France was quite good. It
> simply lacked endurance. If you couldn't finish it within 1/2
> day of purchase feed it to the birds.

That's what real bread is supposed to be like: no oils,
preservatives or conditioners to pretend it's fresh after a day!

You can get what the French call English bread for toast etc.



--
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

From: B Vaughan on
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:20:56 +0200, Giovanni Drogo
<drogo(a)rn.bastiani.ta.invalid> wrote:

>Note on sandwiches. I suspect you'd mean by sandwich more what we'd call
>tramezzini, made with sliced bread. But (as an effect of reverse exotism
>?), while you now use the italian word "panini", when I was a child bars
>often had a sign with the english word "sandwich" [with the drawing of a
>panino with salame]. Probably an early '50s usage. Old milanese
>blue-collar commuters distorted the word into "sanguis".

There is a similar distortion of sandwich in English. I don't remember
where I've seen it, but in some written source that was supposed to
represent either dialect or substandard speech, I've seen it written
"sangwidge". I don't think I've ever heard it actually pronounced that
way, though. Where I come from, the usual substandard rendering was
"samwitch". It's really difficult to pronounce a "ndw" without
distorting it in some way.

--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
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