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From: Sancho Panza on 13 Dec 2006 21:33 "James A. Donald" <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote in message news:89u0o2t64mqgb3jog7g1crndnvvaipdtq2(a)4ax.com... > -- > "James A. Donald" >> > > > Christmas is a universal celebration, heavily >> > > > celebrated by pagans such as Chinese and >> > > > Japanese. It is intended to be universal. > > "Sancho Panza" >> > > A noble sentiment, but far far far from anywhere >> > > near reality. > > James A. Donald: >> > Observe Singapore at Christmas time. > > flaviaR(a)verizon.net >> Which means only that they have taken the secular >> aspects they like and abandoned the rest - which is >> the real affront to Xmas. > > But you guys are trying to suppress even the secular > aspects of Christmas - you were suing against the > display of Christmas trees, not the display of stables > and mangers. You are suing against the stuff that > people see in Singapore Pretty fast on the trigger with "you guys." Just what guys do you mean?
From: Anarcissie on 13 Dec 2006 21:59 dsharavii(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Tchiowa wrote: > > It's a national holiday in the US. If you don't want to participate > > then stay home. But it is absurd to suggest that the country has to > > hide while it celebrates a national holiday. > > > > If you don't like Christmas being a national holiday then ask your > > Congressman to change the law. > > Better still -- buy a one-way trip to Saudi Arabia. There are NO Xmas > trees in their airports -- or anywhere else. I have been told otherwise. I think it's quite possible that the Saudis tolerate various nominally monotheistic performances. Maybe Yemen.... and there are always the various uninhabited islands, and Antarctica.
From: Laura Sanchez on 13 Dec 2006 22:01 God bless the Jewish people. They are always the friends of Christians.
From: flaviaR on 13 Dec 2006 23:52 On 13-Dec-2006, James A. Donald <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote: > Mike Hunt > > > > The issue isn't that the Rabbi wanted the > > > > Christmas ornaments removed, but he wanted > > > > representation of his religion a this public > > > > facility. > > James A. Donald: > > > Christmas is a universal celebration, > > flaviaR(a)verizon.net > > No, it is not. The fact that some people have > > secularized it changes nothing. > > So you are worried that people might look at the > Christmas tree and THINK of a manger? No, I am worried that you are throwing around non -sequiturs because you know you are wrong. I am also worried that you seem to have the idea that numbers are the only thing to consider when deciding what somehting is/not. Your insistence that "Christmas is now secular and erveyone must celebrate it or be considered a bigot [the upshot of your "only those with a grudge against it don;t celebrate it" post] " is not only insanely fascist and bigoted, but just not logical. That's like saying that "There are more people who believe in the phony Kabbalah cult in California than who practice the actual Kabbalah, and so now the phony cult will be considered Kabbalah, and anyone who says otherwise is a bigot." Just completely wrong. > > Sure sounds like war on Christmas. I'm sure it does, when that's what you're determined to see. Susan
From: flaviaR on 13 Dec 2006 23:53
On 13-Dec-2006, "dsharavi(a)gmail.com" <dsharavi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > "James A. Donald" > > > > > > Christmas is a universal celebration, heavily > > > > > > celebrated by pagans such as Chinese and > > > > > > Japanese. It is intended to be universal. > > Christmas is a Christian holiday. > And everyone I know who calls themselves Xian would be offended at any suggestuion otherwise. > > James A. Donald: > > > > Observe Singapore at Christmas time. > > Observe Riyadh at Christmas time. > > James A. Donald wrote: > > But you guys are trying to suppress even the secular > > aspects of Christmas - you were suing against the > > display of Christmas trees > > Who was suing against what display of Xmas trees? NO ONE. > The ones in SEATAC? > > > The remarks made by the posters in this thread > > demonstrate the truth of what I said. > > The remarks by a number of posters to these NGs demonstrate that they > don't know their asses from their elbows. As does his. > Your point? That anyone who doesn't tow the line is a bigot. Which is an incredibly bigoted thing to demand. Susan > > Deborah |