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From: snakehawk on 13 Jun 2010 08:25
On Jun 13, 7:10 am, "ODONOVAN, Himself" <lapuant...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> Memo to Helen Thomas: THE JEWS IN ISRAEL ARE ALREADY HOME

No. the Jews in Israel are in other people's homes. The Jews are
squatting on property owned by others, building on other people's
land, using up other people's natural resources, and illegally
dispossesing rightful owners of their property, their human rights,
and even their lives.

The Jews have no right and no reason to be in Palestine. Jewish claims
to Palestine are based entirely on a book of myths written by the Jews
themselves, a catalogue of plagiarized stories cobbled together from
Babylonian, Hititte, Hurrian, and Egyptian folktales. The book was
compiled and passed off as Jewish history more than a hundred years
after Christianity was founded. Never in all history have the Jews
had a right to property in Palestine.
From: snakehawk on 13 Jun 2010 09:43
On Jun 13, 7:36 am, "ODONOVAN, Himself" <lapuant...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> June 12th, 2010
> Genetic studies indicate what Jews already knew…
>
> …which is that Jews are more closely related to other Middle Eastern
> peoples than they are to the natives of the countries they encountered
> in their millenia of wanderings, and that they are also very closely
> related to each other:

Which explains why Jews are always loyal to each other and are always
ready to betray their host country in favor of their genetic colony.
Jews are by nature an ethnic and racially oriented group. The genetic
connection binding Jews to each other has eventually been recognized
by every society in which the Jews have congregated.

Whenever that genetic propensity for binding together against their
neighbors begins to create problems among the general population, the
Jews are expelled as the genetic group they are. The pattern has been
repeated since the beginning of recorded history.
From: John Rennie on 13 Jun 2010 11:35
GLOBALIST wrote:

>> The Outrage At Helen Thomas
>>
>> In Thomas's lifetime Israel has ethnically cleansed over a million
>> people.
>>
>> By Alison Weir,www.palestinechronicle.com,
>> 11 June, 2010.
>>
>> Whenever Israel commits yet another atrocity, its defenders are quick
>> to redirect public attention away from the grisly crime scene.
>>
>> Currently, there are headlines about allegedly anti-Semitic comments
>> made by senior White House correspondent Helen Thomas. Pundits across
>> the land evince outrage at her off-the-cuff 25-second statement made
>> to a man who appears to be holding a camera right in her face.
snipped for brevity
>
> Thank you Charles for not falling in the trap of "never criticize the
> the government of Israel" or you will be branded for life for being
> anti-Semitic. I think millions are becoming immune and totally
> indifferent to that accusation.

Let me add my thanks. Idiots like peejay think that because I
criticise Israel and even criticise us (the UK) for helping
to found this most contentious state I am inconsistent when
I attack anti-Semites like snakehawk. I happen to be pro-Jewish.
That pro-Jewishness possibly makes me that bit anti-Israel
although I do remember the days of the kibbutz when I
thought that there just might be an idealistic socialist
state being created. How can you be pro-Jewish and
criticise modern day Israel - because Israel is a burden
on the backs of all Jews. I happen to understand why
Israelis attacked Gaza - they had to. They were being
attacked by Hamas. Of course they overdid it and didn't
need to but then we overdid the bombing of Germany when
we didn't need to. It is what happens in war; you hit back
harder than you were hit. I understand why a wall has
been built. The suicide bombings have almost disappeared
but the wall cuts off Israel that much more from what
should be her neighbours. Israel is stuck with having to
make unpleasant decision after unpleasant decision because
it should not exist. It is a totally unnatural creation
and that's what makes it a curse on the Jewish race/culture.


From: John Rennie on 13 Jun 2010 11:59
Bert Hyman wrote:
> In news:Qvmdner8W4dNZ4nRnZ2dnUVZ7q-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com John Rennie
> <john-rennie(a)talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>> It is a totally unnatural creation and that's what makes it a curse
>> on the Jewish race/culture.
>>
>
> All nations are "totally unnatural creation[s]."
>
> Israel was simply carved out of the British Palestine Mandate, the
> ex-Ottoman Empire, which the Brits got essentially as spoils of war in
> 1922.
>
> Jordan and the rest of the states of the region are no more or less
> authentic states than Israel.
>

Roughly true but with the exception that Israel is
to all intents and purposes a European state. Frankly
I think the whole region was better off under the
Ottomans. What a pity they chose the wrong side
to support in WW1.
From: GLOBALIST on 13 Jun 2010 12:00
On Jun 13, 10:35 am, John Rennie <john-ren...(a)talktalk.net> wrote:
> GLOBALIST wrote:
> >> The Outrage At Helen Thomas
>
> >> In Thomas's lifetime Israel has ethnically cleansed over a million
> >> people.
>
> >> By Alison Weir,www.palestinechronicle.com,
> >> 11 June, 2010.
>
> >> Whenever Israel commits yet another atrocity, its defenders are quick
> >> to redirect public attention away from the grisly crime scene.
>
> >> Currently, there are headlines about allegedly anti-Semitic comments
> >> made by senior White House correspondent Helen Thomas. Pundits across
> >> the land evince outrage at her off-the-cuff 25-second statement made
> >> to a man who appears to be holding a camera right in her face.
>
>   snipped for brevity
>
>
>
> > Thank you Charles for not falling in the trap of "never criticize the
> > the government of Israel" or you will be branded for life for being
> > anti-Semitic.  I think millions are becoming immune and totally
> > indifferent to that accusation.
>
> Let me add my thanks. Idiots like peejay think that because I
> criticise Israel and even criticise us (the UK) for helping
> to found this most contentious state I am inconsistent when
> I attack anti-Semites like snakehawk.  I happen to be pro-Jewish.
> That pro-Jewishness possibly makes me that bit anti-Israel
> although I do remember the days of the kibbutz when I
> thought that there just might be an idealistic socialist
> state being created.  How can you be pro-Jewish and
> criticise modern day Israel - because Israel is a burden
> on the backs of all Jews.  I happen to understand why
> Israelis attacked Gaza - they had to.  They were being
> attacked by Hamas.  Of course they overdid it and didn't
> need to but then we overdid the bombing of Germany when
> we didn't need to.  It is what happens in war; you hit back
> harder than you were hit.   I understand why a wall has
> been built.  The suicide bombings have almost disappeared
> but the wall cuts off Israel that much more from what
> should be her neighbours.  Israel is stuck with having to
> make unpleasant decision after unpleasant decision because
> it should not exist. It is a totally unnatural creation
> and that's what makes it a curse on the Jewish race/culture.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I rather see it...this way....When the ship loaded with German Jews
was floating around, no countries would take them in, including
England, including the United States. It was decided that our of
sheer pity and compassion to "allow" them to settle in the area of
Palestine. The European Jews could have started out by being
thoughtful of the natives of that area. They could have started out
with humble beginnings to settle in and adjust to the culture, that
was already in place for centuries. And I might add where plenty of
native Jews were already living in harmony with their neighbors.
But instead they kicked the natives out of their homes and threw
their furniture into the street. The European Jews, who were
generations old in Germany, Poland etc then morphed into the Nazis
that punished and persecuted them. President Truman was furious. He
simply agreed to this arrangement for them to settle there as a
gesture of good will. He wrote in his diary that this whole incident
blew up in the faces of Britain and the US, but even more so for the
Orthodox Christians and the Arabs who lived their for centuries.
Once you tell the historical facts you are branded as a hate
monger. I stil insist and will always say...the intelligent Jews live
in Florida, New York and New Jersey. They do not tie their Jewish
religion up in the mess of the politics of Israel.
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