From: Mike Lane on
Andy Pandy wrote on Aug 7, 2010:

>
> "Mike Lane" <mike.lane.usenet(a)ntlworld.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C8821FF20013589CB02919BF(a)news.virginmedia.com...
>> David Horne wrote on Aug 5, 2010:
>>
>>>
>>> As Andy, probably the Halifax Clarity credit card. But, when travelling
>>> on holiday with my partner, I'll get him to withdraw money from his
>>> Boston bank account, which only adds Visa's 1%. At least for the time
>>> being, with current exchange rates.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OK. How exactly does this work for cash withdrawals, can you tell
>> me? The
>> Halifax site is a little vague about the exact T&Cs. It says:
>> No fee to transfer a balance
>> No cash withdrawal fee
>> No fee to use it anywhere worldwide
>> No annual fee.
>>
>> I'm not sure I quite believe them. What's the catch? Most credit cards
>> charge interest for cash withdrawals from the day you make the
>> withdrawal. Can you preload the card with sufficient cash to cover a trip
>> abroad?
>
> They charge immediate interest from the withdrawal date, but the rate
> is only about 1% a month.
> It looks like you can't pre-load it (it says any credit balance may be
> returned) so what I'd do is just check the balance when I got back off
> holiday and pay it all off. So I'd only be paying a week or two's
> interest, probably under 0.5%.
>
> If you use it for purchases as well you'd have to pay the whole lot
> off when you got back off holiday to avoid further interest on the
> cash advances (as your payment will be allocated to the interest free
> purchases first). So if you want the full interest free period on
> purchases, use another card, eg Nationwide, or get your partner a
> Clarity and use one for purchases and the other for ATMs.
>

OK, thanks. I suppose that will be the best way of getting cash abroad in
future. It seems an insane way of using one's own money though - borrowing it
on a credit card and then repaying it with interest when you get back.


--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
mike_lane at mac dot com

From: Martin on
On 07/08/10 17:20, Mike Lane wrote:
> Andy Pandy wrote on Aug 7, 2010:
>
>>
>> "Mike Lane"<mike.lane.usenet(a)ntlworld.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:0001HW.C8821FF20013589CB02919BF(a)news.virginmedia.com...
>>> David Horne wrote on Aug 5, 2010:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As Andy, probably the Halifax Clarity credit card. But, when travelling
>>>> on holiday with my partner, I'll get him to withdraw money from his
>>>> Boston bank account, which only adds Visa's 1%. At least for the time
>>>> being, with current exchange rates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK. How exactly does this work for cash withdrawals, can you tell
>>> me? The
>>> Halifax site is a little vague about the exact T&Cs. It says:
>>> No fee to transfer a balance
>>> No cash withdrawal fee
>>> No fee to use it anywhere worldwide
>>> No annual fee.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I quite believe them. What's the catch? Most credit cards
>>> charge interest for cash withdrawals from the day you make the
>>> withdrawal. Can you preload the card with sufficient cash to cover a trip
>>> abroad?
>>
>> They charge immediate interest from the withdrawal date, but the rate
>> is only about 1% a month.
>> It looks like you can't pre-load it (it says any credit balance may be
>> returned) so what I'd do is just check the balance when I got back off
>> holiday and pay it all off. So I'd only be paying a week or two's
>> interest, probably under 0.5%.
>>
>> If you use it for purchases as well you'd have to pay the whole lot
>> off when you got back off holiday to avoid further interest on the
>> cash advances (as your payment will be allocated to the interest free
>> purchases first). So if you want the full interest free period on
>> purchases, use another card, eg Nationwide, or get your partner a
>> Clarity and use one for purchases and the other for ATMs.
>>
>
> OK, thanks. I suppose that will be the best way of getting cash abroad in
> future. It seems an insane way of using one's own money though - borrowing it
> on a credit card and then repaying it with interest when you get back.

Can't you use, for example, a Visa debit card instead?
From: Mike Lane on
Martin wrote on Aug 7, 2010:

> On 07/08/10 17:20, Mike Lane wrote:
>> Andy Pandy wrote on Aug 7, 2010:
>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Lane"<mike.lane.usenet(a)ntlworld.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:0001HW.C8821FF20013589CB02919BF(a)news.virginmedia.com...
>>>> David Horne wrote on Aug 5, 2010:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As Andy, probably the Halifax Clarity credit card. But, when travelling
>>>>> on holiday with my partner, I'll get him to withdraw money from his
>>>>> Boston bank account, which only adds Visa's 1%. At least for the time
>>>>> being, with current exchange rates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK. How exactly does this work for cash withdrawals, can you tell
>>>> me? The
>>>> Halifax site is a little vague about the exact T&Cs. It says:
>>>> No fee to transfer a balance
>>>> No cash withdrawal fee
>>>> No fee to use it anywhere worldwide
>>>> No annual fee.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I quite believe them. What's the catch? Most credit cards
>>>> charge interest for cash withdrawals from the day you make the
>>>> withdrawal. Can you preload the card with sufficient cash to cover a trip
>>>> abroad?
>>>
>>> They charge immediate interest from the withdrawal date, but the rate
>>> is only about 1% a month.
>>> It looks like you can't pre-load it (it says any credit balance may be
>>> returned) so what I'd do is just check the balance when I got back off
>>> holiday and pay it all off. So I'd only be paying a week or two's
>>> interest, probably under 0.5%.
>>>
>>> If you use it for purchases as well you'd have to pay the whole lot
>>> off when you got back off holiday to avoid further interest on the
>>> cash advances (as your payment will be allocated to the interest free
>>> purchases first). So if you want the full interest free period on
>>> purchases, use another card, eg Nationwide, or get your partner a
>>> Clarity and use one for purchases and the other for ATMs.
>>>
>>
>> OK, thanks. I suppose that will be the best way of getting cash abroad in
>> future. It seems an insane way of using one's own money though -
>> borrowing it on a credit card and then repaying it with interest when you
>> get back.
>
> Can't you use, for example, a Visa debit card instead?

Yes, of course. It's what I do at the moment - I use the Nationwide Flex
debit card which up till now has allowed withdrawals anywhere with no charges
applied. From November though they're going to impose a 2% charge for foreign
withdrawals.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
mike_lane at mac dot com

From: Martin on
On 07/08/10 19:35, Mike Lane wrote:
> Martin wrote on Aug 7, 2010:
>
>> On 07/08/10 17:20, Mike Lane wrote:
>>> Andy Pandy wrote on Aug 7, 2010:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Lane"<mike.lane.usenet(a)ntlworld.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:0001HW.C8821FF20013589CB02919BF(a)news.virginmedia.com...
>>>>> David Horne wrote on Aug 5, 2010:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Andy, probably the Halifax Clarity credit card. But, when travelling
>>>>>> on holiday with my partner, I'll get him to withdraw money from his
>>>>>> Boston bank account, which only adds Visa's 1%. At least for the time
>>>>>> being, with current exchange rates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. How exactly does this work for cash withdrawals, can you tell
>>>>> me? The
>>>>> Halifax site is a little vague about the exact T&Cs. It says:
>>>>> No fee to transfer a balance
>>>>> No cash withdrawal fee
>>>>> No fee to use it anywhere worldwide
>>>>> No annual fee.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure I quite believe them. What's the catch? Most credit cards
>>>>> charge interest for cash withdrawals from the day you make the
>>>>> withdrawal. Can you preload the card with sufficient cash to cover a trip
>>>>> abroad?
>>>>
>>>> They charge immediate interest from the withdrawal date, but the rate
>>>> is only about 1% a month.
>>>> It looks like you can't pre-load it (it says any credit balance may be
>>>> returned) so what I'd do is just check the balance when I got back off
>>>> holiday and pay it all off. So I'd only be paying a week or two's
>>>> interest, probably under 0.5%.
>>>>
>>>> If you use it for purchases as well you'd have to pay the whole lot
>>>> off when you got back off holiday to avoid further interest on the
>>>> cash advances (as your payment will be allocated to the interest free
>>>> purchases first). So if you want the full interest free period on
>>>> purchases, use another card, eg Nationwide, or get your partner a
>>>> Clarity and use one for purchases and the other for ATMs.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, thanks. I suppose that will be the best way of getting cash abroad in
>>> future. It seems an insane way of using one's own money though -
>>> borrowing it on a credit card and then repaying it with interest when you
>>> get back.
>>
>> Can't you use, for example, a Visa debit card instead?
>
> Yes, of course. It's what I do at the moment - I use the Nationwide Flex
> debit card which up till now has allowed withdrawals anywhere with no charges
> applied. From November though they're going to impose a 2% charge for foreign
> withdrawals.

Mike, do you remember when I said you could get P&O North Sea Ferries
Hull-Rotterdam season tickets? Although they are only advertised for
Rotterdam/Zeebrugge-Hull. They are availble in the other direction too.
I met a woman in Filey with a holiday house in France who has bought
season tickets to Rotterdam every year for years. You pay the low season
rate irrespective of when you travel. There is a small surcharge for a
few peak days per year. You also get preferential treatment. They
guarantee you a place on the ferry even if you only book shortly before
the day you want to travel. You can cancel a booking up to a few hours
before the boat sails.

From: Mike Lane on
Martin wrote on Aug 8, 2010:

> Mike, do you remember when I said you could get P&O North Sea Ferries
> Hull-Rotterdam season tickets? Although they are only advertised for
> Rotterdam/Zeebrugge-Hull. They are availble in the other direction too.
> I met a woman in Filey with a holiday house in France who has bought
> season tickets to Rotterdam every year for years. You pay the low season
> rate irrespective of when you travel. There is a small surcharge for a
> few peak days per year. You also get preferential treatment. They
> guarantee you a place on the ferry even if you only book shortly before
> the day you want to travel. You can cancel a booking up to a few hours
> before the boat sails.

I'll look into that, but the website indicates that the season ticket offer
is for 5 'short break' return trips. I'm not sure sure how they define a
short break but I think it's for a shorter time than I would normally be
interested in.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
mike_lane at mac dot com