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From: Tom P on 11 Aug 2010 12:31
On 08/10/2010 04:42 AM, Gerrit wrote:
>
> "Martin" <me(a)address.invalid> wrote in message
> news:9i80665o305gdo8lgcfb5564ej89r5ml4u(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:20:13 +0200, Tom P <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote:
>>
> SNIP
>>>
>>> Well, the driving might be faster if the Netherlands didn't have such a
>>> lot of traffic on the motorways.
>>
>> Yes, they are saturated in some places.
>> --
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
> We were in the Netherlands in April and June (with a car trip to
> Scandinavia in between) and had no saturation problems at all. But then
> we picked our travel times. :-)
> The only time we had a problem was near Hamburg on the way to Denmark.
>
> But you are right about the railway stations being (mostly) a long way
> from the boatyards. I would not hesitate to rent a car.
>
> Gerrit - in sunny Albany Western Australia
>
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It depends which part of the country. North of Amsterdam is fairly
quiet. The area Amsterdam, Utrecht, den Haag, Rotterdam is really crowded.

T.


From: Sheila Page on 11 Aug 2010 17:55


In message <h9l066dm9pamfkfjuh8qu8d52tavri1nts(a)4ax.com>, Hatunen
<hatunen(a)cox.net> writes
>On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:11:57 +1000, "CamperVanner"
><lli90ffr7(a)hw44serttmsail.com> wrote:
>
>>Is there any price advantage in advance purchase of train fares in the
>>Netherlands, or is it simply better to buy a ticket at a station and go
>>immediatly seeing that to most destinations trains run about every hour?
>>The various internet sites flogging tickets seem to suggest that advance
>>purchase is cheaper, and there are so many "resellers" taht it seems hard to
>>find the "real" Dutch rail fares amongst all the commercial ticket reseller
>>hype like RailEurope trying to sell tickets to tourists.
>
>Websites like RailEurope are generally much more expensive than
>buying tickets on the ground when you get there. And they never
>mention the many discounts offered by by the rail lines.
>
>I suggest going to the offial Netherlands rail site at
>http://www.ns.nl/cs/Satellite/travellers
>
>I haven't looked too deeply into the site, but it may be possible
>to order your tickets and pick them up when you arrive in the
>Netherlands. Still, I've never had a problem buying rail tickets
>at the station on the day of departure. Major events and local
>holidays could make it hard to get tickets, though.
>
>
I agree with others that you should not have a problem buying on the
day, and you should be able to find fares on the ns.nl website, but you
may need to buy at a ticket window because the machines (at least at
Rotterdam Central Station) take only Netherlands cash cards, etc., or
coins. They rejected all forms of UK credit and debit card, and didn't
take notes. One website said that windows were more expensive than the
ticket machines, so the alternative would be stocking up on coins.



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Sheila Page
From: Hatunen on 11 Aug 2010 20:19
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:55:27 +0100, Sheila Page
<sheila-usenet(a)page2.eu> wrote:

>
>
>In message <h9l066dm9pamfkfjuh8qu8d52tavri1nts(a)4ax.com>, Hatunen
><hatunen(a)cox.net> writes
>>On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:11:57 +1000, "CamperVanner"
>><lli90ffr7(a)hw44serttmsail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Is there any price advantage in advance purchase of train fares in the
>>>Netherlands, or is it simply better to buy a ticket at a station and go
>>>immediatly seeing that to most destinations trains run about every hour?
>>>The various internet sites flogging tickets seem to suggest that advance
>>>purchase is cheaper, and there are so many "resellers" taht it seems hard to
>>>find the "real" Dutch rail fares amongst all the commercial ticket reseller
>>>hype like RailEurope trying to sell tickets to tourists.
>>
>>Websites like RailEurope are generally much more expensive than
>>buying tickets on the ground when you get there. And they never
>>mention the many discounts offered by by the rail lines.
>>
>>I suggest going to the offial Netherlands rail site at
>>http://www.ns.nl/cs/Satellite/travellers
>>
>>I haven't looked too deeply into the site, but it may be possible
>>to order your tickets and pick them up when you arrive in the
>>Netherlands. Still, I've never had a problem buying rail tickets
>>at the station on the day of departure. Major events and local
>>holidays could make it hard to get tickets, though.
>>
>>
>I agree with others that you should not have a problem buying on the
>day, and you should be able to find fares on the ns.nl website, but you
>may need to buy at a ticket window because the machines (at least at
>Rotterdam Central Station) take only Netherlands cash cards, etc., or
>coins. They rejected all forms of UK credit and debit card, and didn't
>take notes. One website said that windows were more expensive than the
>ticket machines, so the alternative would be stocking up on coins.

I should think, though, that the ticket window used for the
purchase need not be at a station you will be departing from,
i.e., in general any ticket is availabel at any station.

I see that Schiphol has rail ticket windows as well as rail
service.

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From: Angkor Wat on 11 Aug 2010 23:29
On 8/11/2010 5:19 PM, Hatunen wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:55:27 +0100, Sheila Page
> <sheila-usenet(a)page2.eu> wrote:

>> I agree with others that you should not have a problem buying on the
>> day, and you should be able to find fares on the ns.nl website, but you
>> may need to buy at a ticket window because the machines (at least at
>> Rotterdam Central Station) take only Netherlands cash cards, etc., or
>> coins. They rejected all forms of UK credit and debit card, and didn't
>> take notes. One website said that windows were more expensive than the
>> ticket machines, so the alternative would be stocking up on coins.
>
> I should think, though, that the ticket window used for the
> purchase need not be at a station you will be departing from,
> i.e., in general any ticket is availabel at any station.

This is correct, from personal experience.

> I see that Schiphol has rail ticket windows as well as rail
> service.

Yep. The station at Schiphol is a full-fledged NS facility, where
you can buy tickets to anywhere the trains go.
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