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From: Ari Silverstein on 2 Jul 2010 20:04 On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:10:50 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote: > But one of the key (again in the US context) differentiations > IS nudity. If you are nude, most likely it is perceived as a sexual > setting. Again, there is a little bit of social retraining that has to > be done to REMOVE the sexual part of nudity. (Which it looks like most > nudists accomplish). Yes they do. This retraining has got to be like riding up a steep slope with a one gear tricycle considering that the majority of time the majority of nudists are clothed living in the world which programs for sexual responses from nudity. Now if you are to believe the rec.nude nudists, you would also believe that they are 100% deconditioned. Or 100% in denial. -- Ari Silverstein, C.T.A; C.T.A.S, FREE Cruise Travel Advisory Services www.cruisequick.com - able to offer some of the lowest prices and best value added in the industry. (not affiliated)
From: Ari Silverstein on 2 Jul 2010 20:07 On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:52:05 -0500, Terry J. Wood wrote: > stinson_home(a)HOTMAIL.COM wrote in news:45is26punnbbrvtr6hr2rod3oe854oj44l@ > 4ax.com: > >> We're truly dinosaurs. How the hell did THAT happen? > > I was wondering the same thing myself. My HS class is having a 36 year > reunion this weekend! Are you going nude? if you don't are you copping out? -- Ari Silverstein, C.T.A; C.T.A.S, FREE Cruise Travel Advisory Services www.cruisequick.com - able to offer some of the lowest prices and best value added in the industry. (not affiliated)
From: Ari Silverstein on 2 Jul 2010 20:23 On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:46:26 -0700, Dan Abel wrote: > In article <896mqdFo4tU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > Ari Silverstein <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 07:25:56 -0700, Dan Abel wrote: >> >>> What I posted above is that Bare Necessities is claiming, on their web >>> site, that these are *cruise line* rules, not theirs, although they have >>> those rules also. So, I ask you, in the case of a charter, who enforces >>> the rules, especially the rules of the cruise line? >> >> That's a good question, Dan. Obviously, maritime laws are still >> enforceable (musters, life jackets and safety gear, etc) but the >> so-called social laws like this question of sexual solicitation we are >> discussing are up to they who charter. As long as the captain and crew >> find that there in no interference in the safety of the ship or its >> pax. > > So, they're lying? It's not really a cruise line rule, and the captain > won't really enforce them? Not every rule on any cruise line/ship is enforced just like in society, Dan. Lying, well okay but it's more like refusal to enforce. >> What a nightmare though. Every conversation, every nuance, every look >> would have to be guarded. Damn near anything could have sexual >> implications. > > Again, you're making it way too complicated. Pretty much the rules are > the same, clothed or nude. If someone is obnoxious, and won't stop > being obnoxious, then the rules need to be enforced, or people will stop > going on these cruises. Maybe they are but the responses I get re: nude cruises and the ones I have seen many times first hand on clothed cruises is that there is a different set of urgencies and importances set the rules. Again, the same way it is as you go from locale to locale with land law enforcement. Different scenarios require different emphasis on differing regulations. -- Ari Silverstein, C.T.A; C.T.A.S, FREE Cruise Travel Advisory Services www.cruisequick.com - able to offer some of the lowest prices and best value added in the industry. (not affiliated)
From: Terry J. Wood on 2 Jul 2010 20:32 Dan Abel <dabel(a)sonic.net> wrote in news:dabel-7954B9.16074802072010(a)c-61-68- 245-199.per.connect.net.au: > But...but...but... > Doncha think we need to have a scientific study so you can *read* about > what your personal opinion is? > If you can get goverment funding for the study, I'll volunteer to do the research! It might take me all summer though.
From: Terry J. Wood on 2 Jul 2010 20:37
Ari Silverstein <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:897cn5Fm0mU1 @mid.individual.net: > They refuse to believe the glaringly obvious. The simple fact that > nudity *is* sexually stimulating to a whole bunch, billions in fact, > of folks around the planet. We didn't say that you don't get turned on looking at nekkid womyn. We're just telling you that it doesn't do that for US. If you tried naturism you'd soon understand this. Jenny's right. If you're ever going to understand this you're going to have to TRY it. |