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From: Kurt Ullman on 1 Dec 2009 08:04
In article <aot8h5tkjqpc1fhl9urpeg60vv7niulr5o(a)4ax.com>,
Joseph Coulter <none(a)nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:18:34 -0600, George Leppla
> <george(a)cruisemaster.com> wrote:
>
> >e now ! Is it because people feel safer in Ft
> >> Louderdale then Miami ! Or is Ft Louderdale a more visitor vacation
> >> friendly city . Or is it that horn blowing back and fourth when going
> Oasis is in FLL (as is Independence) because RCI just got tired of the
> hassles of dealing with the authorities in Miami. FLL is user
> friendly, Miami, is well, Miami.

Permeates the area. I have a frequent flyer friend who says "Friends
don't let friends fly through Miami".

--
To find that place where the rats don't race
and the phones don't ring at all.
If once, you've slept on an island.
Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an island"

From: Susette on 1 Dec 2009 16:07
On Dec 1, 12:05 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
> George Leppla <geo...(a)cruisemaster.com> wrote:
> >Mr Met 06 wrote:
> >> When we started cruising back in 1981 .The two main ports were NY &
> >> Miami .NY being at the end of her long run as top port and Miami
> >> taking over. But it seems that Port Everglades is  the top cruise port
> >> in the world now .How did she over take the port of Miami ? It seems
> >> all the great new ships and high end cruise lines want to us
> >> Everglades more now ! Is it because  people feel safer in  Ft
> >> Louderdale  then Miami ! Or is Ft Louderdale a more visitor  vacation
> >> friendly city . Or is it that horn blowing back and fourth when going
> >> from port everglades from the condo"s LOL !!
>
> >Port Everglades has room for more ships than Miami.  The FLL airport is
> >only minutes away from the port and much more "passenger friendly" than
> >Miami.  The Miami Customs and Immigration office is inefficient,
> >creating long lines of people waiting to get off the cruise ships, where
> >the wait in Port Everglades is usually minimal.  The port facilities
> >themselves are cleaner and traffic patterns are better laid out.
>
> >I don't have much good to say about the Port of Miami and not much bad
> >to say about Port Everglades.  I really have to think twice... maybe
> >three times before booking a cruise out of Miami.  When we do, it is
> >only because there is a ship there that I want to go on and have no
> >other choice.
>
> We've visited Miami frequently and for fairly long periods of time
> like several weeks.  (The first visit I remember was in 1950 when we
> went to the Orange Bowl Parade.)   I find lots of interesting things
> to do and places to go in Miami.  And we have a daughter and
> grandchildren there.   It's like Key West - we lived there for three
> years in the late 60s, one daughter was born there and since then,
> we've visited frequently.  I like it.  But we have more background
> than the average tourist.
>
> We have only rarely been to Ft L.  I feel that it is kind of bland as
> a city and it doesn't appeal to me. But it is a more convenient port
> for cruise ships, and Miami immigration is the pits.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh FT L is much more resort like then Miami-so much crime and city,
and nothing like Key West! We just left Ft l and we are now in
Redington Beach/Clearwater which is WONDERFUL, and then on Friday
heading to Key West, MY Sig. other Bob lived there as a teen, so we
are going back to see it and to go down front and duval to a fave Wine
place.... so different then Miami
From: Mr Met 06 on 1 Dec 2009 19:10
On Dec 1, 4:07 pm, Susette <cruiseoutl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 12:05 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > George Leppla <geo...(a)cruisemaster.com> wrote:
> > >Mr Met 06 wrote:
> > >> When we started cruising back in 1981 .The two main ports were NY &
> > >> Miami .NY being at the end of her long run as top port and Miami
> > >> taking over. But it seems that Port Everglades is  the top cruise port
> > >> in the world now .How did she over take the port of Miami ? It seems
> > >> all the great new ships and high end cruise lines want to us
> > >> Everglades more now ! Is it because  people feel safer in  Ft
> > >> Louderdale  then Miami ! Or is Ft Louderdale a more visitor  vacation
> > >> friendly city . Or is it that horn blowing back and fourth when going
> > >> from port everglades from the condo"s LOL !!
>
> > >Port Everglades has room for more ships than Miami.  The FLL airport is
> > >only minutes away from the port and much more "passenger friendly" than
> > >Miami.  The Miami Customs and Immigration office is inefficient,
> > >creating long lines of people waiting to get off the cruise ships, where
> > >the wait in Port Everglades is usually minimal.  The port facilities
> > >themselves are cleaner and traffic patterns are better laid out.
>
> > >I don't have much good to say about the Port of Miami and not much bad
> > >to say about Port Everglades.  I really have to think twice... maybe
> > >three times before booking a cruise out of Miami.  When we do, it is
> > >only because there is a ship there that I want to go on and have no
> > >other choice.
>
> > We've visited Miami frequently and for fairly long periods of time
> > like several weeks.  (The first visit I remember was in 1950 when we
> > went to the Orange Bowl Parade.)   I find lots of interesting things
> > to do and places to go in Miami.  And we have a daughter and
> > grandchildren there.   It's like Key West - we lived there for three
> > years in the late 60s, one daughter was born there and since then,
> > we've visited frequently.  I like it.  But we have more background
> > than the average tourist.
>
> > We have only rarely been to Ft L.  I feel that it is kind of bland as
> > a city and it doesn't appeal to me. But it is a more convenient port
> > for cruise ships, and Miami immigration is the pits.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Oh FT L is much more resort like then Miami-so much crime and city,
> and nothing like Key West! We just left Ft l and we are now in
> Redington Beach/Clearwater which is WONDERFUL, and then on Friday
> heading to Key West, MY Sig. other Bob lived there as a teen, so we
> are going back to see it and to go down front and duval to a fave Wine
> place.... so different then Miami

Yes it seems like Miami is getting like NYC ! for taking a cruise .Tom
by the way i will be on the QM2 on the 10th for the World ship port of
NY branch X Mas party ..I'll let you know how it was .Sue i wish i was
going on the Viking cruise .Me being the biggest Minnesota Vikings
fan .You should see the hat my son got me with real horn"s LOL !!!!!

Ken G...............>
From: Tom K on 1 Dec 2009 20:38

"Mr Met 06" <kpjeg(a)msn.com> wrote in message
news:6cb42685-897a-4d85-b554-4aa572a74872(a)e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...

Yes it seems like Miami is getting like NYC ! for taking a cruise .Tom
by the way i will be on the QM2 on the 10th for the World ship port of
NY branch X Mas party ..


I love that ship... have a great party on her. How long do you get to stay
on board? Just for lunch?



I'll let you know how it was .Sue i wish i was
going on the Viking cruise .Me being the biggest Minnesota Vikings
fan .You should see the hat my son got me with real horn"s LOL !!!!!


Keep your schedule open for next year... maybe you can make it.

--Tom


From: Gadget World on 1 Dec 2009 22:22
Port Everglades is on top as it is the most unusual port in the world!

Normally ports are in the heart of the city that was built around it.
Port Everglades is in the heart of the most expensive residential an
tourist district of Ft Lauderdale.

Most ports are inundated with hookers, drunks and crime. Port Everglades
has some drunks and homeless, but not like the streets behind Biscayne
Blvd in Miami.

Port everglades has the closest airport of any port and many good hotels
and resorts as well as restaurants, shops etc.

Port Everglades was always the winter home of high priced luxury ships
and world cruises. It was known as the 5 star port. In 1985 the Costa
Riviera started operating the first year- round 7 day cruises. The
Miami operators said that it would never work from Port Everglades,
but the converted Marconi was a big success and laid the foundation or
all those who said it wouldn't work, to move ships to Port Everglades.


Gadget

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