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From: Buddenbrooks on 3 Dec 2009 11:58 "Roland Perry" <roland(a)perry.co.uk> wrote in message news:1s7dibOSs1FLFAbZ(a)perry.co.uk... > > This can also happen if a Credit Card charge is flagged as potentially > fraudulent. Apparently some airlines just cancel the booking and don't > tell you until you get to the airport - at which point you have no seat, > of course. > And as I understand it, as no money has changed hands there is no contract so no hope of compensation. With this airline I now pay by debit card so I can see the deduction a few days later rather than wait for the credit card statement.
From: tim.... on 3 Dec 2009 12:30 "Buddenbrooks" <knightstemplar(a)budweiser.com> wrote in message news:n6SRm.43091$AD4.24156(a)newsfe04.ams2... > > "Roland Perry" <roland(a)perry.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1s7dibOSs1FLFAbZ(a)perry.co.uk... > > >> This can also happen if a Credit Card charge is flagged as potentially >> fraudulent. Apparently some airlines just cancel the booking and don't >> tell you until you get to the airport - at which point you have no seat, >> of course. >> > > And as I understand it, as no money has changed hands there is no contract > so no hope of compensation. This is not correct. The passenger agreed to pay the money and had every expectation that it would be taken. The other partly deciding not to take it (without first repudiating the contract) does not remove the essence of "consideration" from the contract. tim
From: Roland Perry on 3 Dec 2009 12:31 In message <n6SRm.43091$AD4.24156(a)newsfe04.ams2>, at 16:58:00 on Thu, 3 Dec 2009, Buddenbrooks <knightstemplar(a)budweiser.com> remarked: >> This can also happen if a Credit Card charge is flagged as >>potentially fraudulent. Apparently some airlines just cancel the >>booking and don't tell you until you get to the airport - at which >>point you have no seat, of course. > >And as I understand it, as no money has changed hands there is no >contract so no hope of compensation. I they confirmed the transaction, there's a contract. If they (in effect) refuse to take the money, that's their problem. The right procedure would be: Airline gets a "maybe" from the CCC, and puts the transaction on ice. The CCC contacts the cardholder to ask if it's a real transaction If it's OK the CCC releases the money, then the airline can 'resubmit' the charge. But the airline appears to get the "maybe", and fail to tell the customer they've turned it into a "no", and cancelled the transaction they appeared to have confirmed. Or are the customers not in fact getting a confirmation, because they don't know what they are missing? >With this airline I now pay by debit card so I can see the deduction a >few days later rather than wait for the credit card statement. The credits cards for which I have online access will post transactions within a few days too. -- Roland Perry
From: Mizter T on 24 Dec 2009 06:34
On Dec 2, 8:04 am, Roland Perry <rol...(a)perry.co.uk> wrote: > In message <_mdRm.27206$064.6...(a)newsfe17.ams2>, at 18:36:40 on Tue, 1 > Dec 2009, Buddenbrooks <knightstemp...(a)budweiser.com> remarked: > > > It is horses for courses, if I am going to pay full fare it is > >unlikely to be Rion Air, for a low cost he is the way to go. > > The more that time goes by, the more I pick the carrier *simply* because > they fly the route. There is very little duplication in practice. So my > most recent flight was with Easyjet, my next one is with BMIbaby, and > the one after that'll probably be Emirates [1]. > > A similar approach by most flyers (although they would deny it) is > probably the reason why elasticity of demand is "surprisingly" around > 20% - in other words, put fares up 100% and 80% of people continue to > fly. > > It's a bit like trains, if I want to go fro London to Manchester, it's > pretty obvious that Virgin West Coast is the only sensible company. > Although if I was dead set against them I could use East Midlands Trains > via Sheffield, changing trains and taking twice as long! Nah - London Midland to Stoke-on-Trent, then Crosscountry or Virgin on to Manchester. Takes less than twice as long, can cost less than half as much. |