From: Donna Evleth on


> From: "William Black" <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:21:51 +0530
> Subject: Re: Salami and other obiects of smuggling
>
>
> "Earl Evleth" <evleth(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:C774CB97.195102%evleth(a)wanadoo.fr...
>> US authorities have always been old-ladyish (sexism aside)
>> with respect to importing meat products. Years ago, when living in
>> California a French friend came visiting and smuggled in a terrine of
>> p�t�, and wasn't caught. Years later while living in France
>> my brother, who was coming, asked if he could bring us
>> an Ozark Hickory smoked ham. I said there were no restrictions
>> I know of, the French hold food sacred and certainly Ozark ham
>> would make their list of sacred food.
>
> Importing meat products into the EC is illegal without the appropriate
> license.
>
> As a general rule nobody minds much about stuff for personal use.

"Personal use" are the operative words. Fortunately. Earl talked about the
Ozark ham his brother brought us. He knew the guy who had the smokehouse,
we had had the ham before, and knew how wonderful it would be. The best
gift he could have brought. And because it was for our personal use, it was
allowed. No nanny state rules about what you can consume yourself. Or
rather, there is a rule: go for it!

Donna Evleth
>
>
> --
> William Black
>
>
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.
>

From: Runge11 on
Ho ho ho evleth's fianc� is back


"Gregory Morrow" <auntieauntie(a)auntieauntie.cz> a �crit dans le message de
groupe de discussion : 5d2dnZxxe8sWutLWnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
> Martin wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:55:02 +0100, Magda <no-spam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:49:58 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
>>> <me(a)address.invalid> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
>>> this:
>>>
>>> ... On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:33:43 +0100, "Tim C." <spamtrap(a)tele2.at>
>>> wrote: ...
>>> ... >On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:26:06 +0100, Martin wrote in post :
>>> ... ><news:vl6uk5lsnla43857guf4gv0l7rc0rdnsv3(a)4ax.com> :
>>> ... >
>>> ... >>>As a general rule nobody minds much about stuff for personal
>>> use. ... >>
>>> ... >> Other than at Heathrow where somebody was fined �600 for
>>> having a small piece of ... >> salami in his luggage and at Hull
>>> Docks where we had a packet of bacon ... >> confiscated.
>>> ... >
>>> ... >And going by the German documentaries about Customs officers,
>>> nearly every ... >airport and international post office in the
>>> country. ...
>>> ... I hope the fat burgers get heart disease from eating all that
>>> confiscated meat.
>>>
>>> See? They were only protecting you... :ppppppp
>>
>>> o)
>
>
> What happened when Magda tried to smuggle her Dutch Cap into Eire...???
>
> :o)
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
>
From: Stephen Ellenson on

"Martin" <me(a)address.invalid> wrote in message
news:v68uk5dhs8ergahr45lvgnfb4n925sig0s(a)4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:33:43 +0100, "Tim C." <spamtrap(a)tele2.at> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:26:06 +0100, Martin wrote in post :
>><news:vl6uk5lsnla43857guf4gv0l7rc0rdnsv3(a)4ax.com> :
>>
>>>>As a general rule nobody minds much about stuff for personal use.
>>>
>>> Other than at Heathrow where somebody was fined �600 for having a small
>>> piece of
>>> salami in his luggage and at Hull Docks where we had a packet of bacon
>>> confiscated.
>>
>>And going by the German documentaries about Customs officers, nearly every
>>airport and international post office in the country.
>
> I hope the fat burgers get heart disease from eating all that confiscated
> meat.
> --
>
> Martin

A couple years ago, when going through security at Brussels airport, the
x-ray machine found my tubes of Amora moutarde in my carry on. I had
forgotten to put them in my checked bag. It was my mistake, not because it
was mustard but because it was a "liquid/gel" larger than the allowed size.
I told them to put them in the lunchroom so someone could use them. I was
told that they were forbidden to use anything confiscated. My wife felt bad
enough for me that when we got back to the states she ordered some from a
site that sells French condiments in the U.S. Needless to say she paid more
on-line than I paid in Brussels. I hope they used the confiscated mustard in
Belgium.


From: Tom P on
Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:17:54 +0530, "William Black"
> <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Martin" <me(a)address.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:vl6uk5lsnla43857guf4gv0l7rc0rdnsv3(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:21:51 +0530, "William Black"
>>> <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Earl Evleth" <evleth(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
>>>> news:C774CB97.195102%evleth(a)wanadoo.fr...
>>>>> US authorities have always been old-ladyish (sexism aside)
>>>>> with respect to importing meat products. Years ago, when living in
>>>>> California a French friend came visiting and smuggled in a terrine of
>>>>> p�t�, and wasn't caught. Years later while living in France
>>>>> my brother, who was coming, asked if he could bring us
>>>>> an Ozark Hickory smoked ham. I said there were no restrictions
>>>>> I know of, the French hold food sacred and certainly Ozark ham
>>>>> would make their list of sacred food.
>>>> Importing meat products into the EC is illegal without the appropriate
>>>> license.
>>> and uncooked meat products within the EU.
>>>
>>>> As a general rule nobody minds much about stuff for personal use.
>>> Other than at Heathrow where somebody was fined �600 for having a small
>>> piece of
>>> salami in his luggage and at Hull Docks where we had a packet of bacon
>>> confiscated.
>> Chances are that the case was opened for something else and they happened
>> across the salami.
>>
>> As far as I'm aware they're no more interested in a packet of bacon or a
>> stick of salami than they are about a fake Rolex.
>>
>> I've never actually seen a foot passenger stopped at Hull Docks for
>> anything, including smuggling tobacco...
>
> Who narrowed the passengers down to foot passengers?
>
> Your lack of awareness doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Are you aware that last
> summer they were breathalysing car drivers as they drove off the ferry at 8 a.m
> and that it is quite common to have the contents of car boots examined in both
> directions?

Entering the United Kingdom by car brings back memories of the times I
used to drive across the East German border while it still existed. I
think they must be employing ex-Volkspolizei officers at UK Customs and
Excise.
Among other things I've seen Christmas turkeys being extracted from
the boots of hapless Brits presumably on their way to enjoy Christmas
with their loved ones.

T.


From: Tom P on
Tim C. wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:26:06 +0100, Martin wrote in post :
> <news:vl6uk5lsnla43857guf4gv0l7rc0rdnsv3(a)4ax.com> :
>
>>> As a general rule nobody minds much about stuff for personal use.
>> Other than at Heathrow where somebody was fined �600 for having a small piece of
>> salami in his luggage and at Hull Docks where we had a packet of bacon
>> confiscated.
>
> And going by the German documentaries about Customs officers, nearly every
> airport and international post office in the country.
>
I confess I once smuggled a large and priceless wild boar sausage from
Sardinia back to Germany in my hand luggage. I didn't know there were
any restrictions until I got to the airport, checked my bags in and then
saw the signs in huge letters going through security. I mean, it's
inside Europe, innit? Fortunately, security at Olbia is pretty
non-existent.