From: abelard on
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
<davidcovey(a)t-online.de> wrote:

>On Apr 25, 1:52�pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>>
>> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
>> >On Apr 25, 12:18�pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm
>>
>> >> hardy fuckin ha!
>>
>> >Nice one.
>>
>> >A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting. �He said he
>> >wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a bit and made the matador
>> >drink a bottle of vodka before going into the ring so he wouldn't know
>> >which bull to torment. �It would be funny too - I think it lacks
>> >humour in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly abusing
>> >animals" format.
>>
>> are you on the side of the islamofascists as well?
>
>So you approve of cruelty to animals then? Looking forward to
>reinstating hunting and bear baiting are you?

answer the question

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From: abelard on
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:09:00 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
<davidcovey(a)t-online.de> wrote:

>On Apr 25, 3:19�pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...(a)verizon.net>
>wrote:
>
><snip>
>>
>> I've never seen a bull-fight but, from TV shows, it does seem usually to
>> be rather dangerous for the matador
>
>Anyone familiar with them will tell you that most bulls are docile and
>won't hurt a fly. They get a bad press and different breeds do behave
>differently, but I used to happily walk alongside them as a kid being
>born and raised on a farm. One particulr one - a cuddly Hereford -
>insisted on going in to the milking shed with the cows, so he could
>get some feed. It was quite funny. I have met a few big buggers in
>my time but, make no mistake, there is nothing brave about facing a
>dumb animal who has no idea about what is going to happen. Any human
>with their wits about them would survive a bullfight, though few are
>so cowardly as to kill such a magnificent animal in ruthless cold
>blood for the perverse enjoyment of others.

does your bleeding heart extend to slaughterhouses?

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From: Floating Voter on
On 25 Apr, 15:19, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...(a)verizon.net>
wrote:
>  aquachimp  wrote  on Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:09:08 -0700 (PDT):
>
>
>
> > On Apr 25, 4:06 pm, AlanG <inva...(a)invalid.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>
> >> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> > >> On Apr 25, 12:18 pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm
>
> > >>> hardy fuckin ha!
>
> > >> Nice one.
>
> > >> A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting.
> > >>  He said he wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a
> > >> bit and made the matador drink a bottle of vodka before
> > >> going into the ring so he wouldn't know which bull to
> > >> torment.  It would be funny too - I think it lacks humour
> > >> in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly
> > >> abusing animals" format.
>
> >> I've never seen a bullfight until recently. Was on holiday in
> >> spain and got stuck in the hotel room for a few hours while
> >> it pissed down outside. I flicked through the tv channels and
> >> spotted a bullfight.
>
> >> There is very little bravery in facing a tormented animal
> >> that is weakened and bleeding to death from blades stuck in
> >> it.
>
> I've never seen a bull-fight but, from TV shows, it does seem usually to
> be rather dangerous for the matador and there is unfortunately a human
> fascination in watching a real fight to the death. However, the result
> is usually inevitable and watching a death is rather like the
> gladiatorial contests of ancient Rome. I believe the bull is *not*
> killed in Portugal and that would seem a better version.

AIUI in Portugal they are not killed in the ring but usually killed
behind
the scenes after the fight. Whether or not this is true, they are
tormented.
Both versions are barbaric.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

From: Uncle Dave on
On Apr 25, 4:19 pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>
>
>
> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> >On Apr 25, 1:52 pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>
> >> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> >> >On Apr 25, 12:18 pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm
>
> >> >> hardy fuckin ha!
>
> >> >Nice one.
>
> >> >A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting.  He said he
> >> >wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a bit and made the matador
> >> >drink a bottle of vodka before going into the ring so he wouldn't know
> >> >which bull to torment.  It would be funny too - I think it lacks
> >> >humour in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly abusing
> >> >animals" format.
>
> >> are you on the side of the islamofascists as well?
>
> >So you approve of cruelty to animals then?  Looking forward to
> >reinstating hunting and bear baiting are you?
>
> answer the question

What is an "islamofascist"? I rather suspect you made the term up
because I can't find a candidate standing here.

UD
From: abelard on
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:51:45 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
<davidcovey(a)t-online.de> wrote:

>On Apr 25, 4:19�pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
>> >On Apr 25, 1:52�pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>>
>> >> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
>> >> >On Apr 25, 12:18�pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm
>>
>> >> >> hardy fuckin ha!
>>
>> >> >Nice one.
>>
>> >> >A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting. �He said he
>> >> >wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a bit and made the matador
>> >> >drink a bottle of vodka before going into the ring so he wouldn't know
>> >> >which bull to torment. �It would be funny too - I think it lacks
>> >> >humour in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly abusing
>> >> >animals" format.
>>
>> >> are you on the side of the islamofascists as well?
>>
>> >So you approve of cruelty to animals then? �Looking forward to
>> >reinstating hunting and bear baiting are you?
>>
>> answer the question
>
>What is an "islamofascist"? I rather suspect you made the term up
>because I can't find a candidate standing here.

answer the question

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