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From: AlanG on 25 Apr 2010 13:28 On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:09:08 -0700 (PDT), aquachimp <aquachimp(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >On Apr 25, 4:06�pm, AlanG <inva...(a)invalid.net> wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave >> >> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote: >> >On Apr 25, 12:18�pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm >> >> >> hardy fuckin ha! >> >> >Nice one. >> >> >A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting. �He said he >> >wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a bit and made the matador >> >drink a bottle of vodka before going into the ring so he wouldn't know >> >which bull to torment. �It would be funny too - I think it lacks >> >humour in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly abusing >> >animals" format. >> >> I've never seen a bullfight until recently. Was on holiday in spain >> and got stuck in the hotel room for a few hours while it pissed down >> outside. I flicked through the tv channels and spotted a bullfight. >> >> There is very little bravery in facing a tormented animal that is >> weakened and bleeding to death from blades stuck in it. > >Adding to which, a link within that page is headlined as "Matador aged >11 kills six bulls" >but the video shows the "bull" to be about calf sized. I didn't follow the link. Bullfighting disgusts me and I'm not squeamish. I belonged to the fishing, shooting fraternity for a long time and have no poblems with killing an animal cleanly but tormenting one while it bleeds to death is just torture.
From: McKevvy on 25 Apr 2010 13:53 On 25 Apr, 16:09, Uncle Dave <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > On Apr 25, 3:19 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...(a)verizon.net> > wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > I've never seen a bull-fight but, from TV shows, it does seem usually to > > be rather dangerous for the matador > > Anyone familiar with them will tell you that most bulls are docile and > won't hurt a fly. They get a bad press and different breeds do behave > differently, but I used to happily walk alongside them as a kid being > born and raised on a farm. One particulr one - a cuddly Hereford - > insisted on going in to the milking shed with the cows, so he could > get some feed. It was quite funny. I have met a few big buggers in > my time but, make no mistake, there is nothing brave about facing a > dumb animal who has no idea about what is going to happen. Any human > with their wits about them would survive a bullfight, though few are > so cowardly as to kill such a magnificent animal in ruthless cold > blood for the perverse enjoyment of others. > > UD Absolutely agreed. McK.
From: McKevvy on 25 Apr 2010 13:55 On 25 Apr, 16:20, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:09:00 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave > > > > <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > >On Apr 25, 3:19 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...(a)verizon.net> > >wrote: > > ><snip> > > >> I've never seen a bull-fight but, from TV shows, it does seem usually to > >> be rather dangerous for the matador > > >Anyone familiar with them will tell you that most bulls are docile and > >won't hurt a fly. They get a bad press and different breeds do behave > >differently, but I used to happily walk alongside them as a kid being > >born and raised on a farm. One particulr one - a cuddly Hereford - > >insisted on going in to the milking shed with the cows, so he could > >get some feed. It was quite funny. I have met a few big buggers in > >my time but, make no mistake, there is nothing brave about facing a > >dumb animal who has no idea about what is going to happen. Any human > >with their wits about them would survive a bullfight, though few are > >so cowardly as to kill such a magnificent animal in ruthless cold > >blood for the perverse enjoyment of others. > > does your bleeding heart extend to slaughterhouses? > Theyre not tormented to fee-paying public in slaughterhouses. Theyre killed quickly, painlessly and humanely for meat and by products. McK.
From: McKevvy on 25 Apr 2010 13:55 On 25 Apr, 18:28, AlanG <inva...(a)invalid.net> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:09:08 -0700 (PDT), aquachimp > > > > <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > >On Apr 25, 4:06 pm, AlanG <inva...(a)invalid.net> wrote: > >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave > > >> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > >> >On Apr 25, 12:18 pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm > > >> >> hardy fuckin ha! > > >> >Nice one. > > >> >A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting. He said he > >> >wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a bit and made the matador > >> >drink a bottle of vodka before going into the ring so he wouldn't know > >> >which bull to torment. It would be funny too - I think it lacks > >> >humour in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly abusing > >> >animals" format. > > >> I've never seen a bullfight until recently. Was on holiday in spain > >> and got stuck in the hotel room for a few hours while it pissed down > >> outside. I flicked through the tv channels and spotted a bullfight. > > >> There is very little bravery in facing a tormented animal that is > >> weakened and bleeding to death from blades stuck in it. > > >Adding to which, a link within that page is headlined as "Matador aged > >11 kills six bulls" > >but the video shows the "bull" to be about calf sized. > > I didn't follow the link. Bullfighting disgusts me and I'm not > squeamish. I belonged to the fishing, shooting fraternity for a long > time and have no poblems with killing an animal cleanly but tormenting > one while it bleeds to death is just torture. Agreed 100%. McK.
From: Uncle Dave on 25 Apr 2010 13:56
On Apr 25, 6:02 pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:51:45 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave > > > > <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > >On Apr 25, 4:19 pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote: > >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave > > >> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > >> >On Apr 25, 1:52 pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote: > >> >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave > > >> >> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > >> >> >On Apr 25, 12:18 pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm > > >> >> >> hardy fuckin ha! > > >> >> >Nice one. > > >> >> >A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting. He said he > >> >> >wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a bit and made the matador > >> >> >drink a bottle of vodka before going into the ring so he wouldn't know > >> >> >which bull to torment. It would be funny too - I think it lacks > >> >> >humour in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly abusing > >> >> >animals" format. > > >> >> are you on the side of the islamofascists as well? > > >> >So you approve of cruelty to animals then? Looking forward to > >> >reinstating hunting and bear baiting are you? > > >> answer the question > > >What is an "islamofascist"? I rather suspect you made the term up > >because I can't find a candidate standing here. > > answer the question Ask away Bridge Keeper, I'm not afraid. UD |