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From: Patty Winter on 27 Jun 2010 13:40 In article <t4lc26hpccketsf6ipop3sbak2cl4g307t(a)4ax.com>, Gary Edstrom <GEdstrom(a)PacBell.Net> wrote: >Well, it took me two months, but I finally got around to posting the >video I took during the time we were stuck on Space Mountain: > ><http://www.gedstrom.com/Disney/Disneyland/Stuck_on_Space_Mountain/Stuck_on_Space_Mountain.wmv> Thanks for posting this, Gary. I get that returning the cars to the station is easier than unloading folks on the track, but were all of the stopped cars able to do that? I'd think there might be some that wouldn't have been able to gain enough momentum to make it back to the station. But it's been years since I was on SM, so maybe it works from anywhere on the route. Patty
From: Keane on 27 Jun 2010 13:51 On 27 Jun 2010 17:40:01 GMT, Patty Winter <patty1(a)wintertime.com> wrote: > >In article <t4lc26hpccketsf6ipop3sbak2cl4g307t(a)4ax.com>, >Gary Edstrom <GEdstrom(a)PacBell.Net> wrote: >>Well, it took me two months, but I finally got around to posting the >>video I took during the time we were stuck on Space Mountain: >> >><http://www.gedstrom.com/Disney/Disneyland/Stuck_on_Space_Mountain/Stuck_on_Space_Mountain.wmv> > >Thanks for posting this, Gary. > >I get that returning the cars to the station is easier than unloading >folks on the track, but were all of the stopped cars able to do that? >I'd think there might be some that wouldn't have been able to gain >enough momentum to make it back to the station. But it's been years >since I was on SM, so maybe it works from anywhere on the route. > > >Patty Any coaster should be able to get back to the station from any block break. Otherwise, they'd have to physically remove the train from the track and bring it back to the loading station. Not an easy thing to do... Keane -- When stars are born, They possess a gift or two, One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true... -- Wishes Visit my site: http://keanespics.com
From: Gary Edstrom on 27 Jun 2010 14:28 On 27 Jun 2010 17:40:01 GMT, Patty Winter <patty1(a)wintertime.com> wrote: > >In article <t4lc26hpccketsf6ipop3sbak2cl4g307t(a)4ax.com>, >Gary Edstrom <GEdstrom(a)PacBell.Net> wrote: >>Well, it took me two months, but I finally got around to posting the >>video I took during the time we were stuck on Space Mountain: >> >><http://www.gedstrom.com/Disney/Disneyland/Stuck_on_Space_Mountain/Stuck_on_Space_Mountain.wmv> > >Thanks for posting this, Gary. > >I get that returning the cars to the station is easier than unloading >folks on the track, but were all of the stopped cars able to do that? >I'd think there might be some that wouldn't have been able to gain >enough momentum to make it back to the station. But it's been years >since I was on SM, so maybe it works from anywhere on the route. > > >Patty All of the points where the cars can be stopped are points from which the car will have enough momentum to make it back down to the station, even with a standing start. This applies even on California Screamin' where the car may have to do that vertical loop after starting up again. Gary
From: Patty Winter on 27 Jun 2010 14:36 In article <cu5f26dnfnmv831bk1g8fhdjh3fhgjj9ar(a)4ax.com>, Gary Edstrom <GEdstrom(a)PacBell.Net> wrote: >On 27 Jun 2010 17:40:01 GMT, Patty Winter <patty1(a)wintertime.com> wrote: [unneeded quotage deleted] >>I get that returning the cars to the station is easier than unloading >>folks on the track, but were all of the stopped cars able to do that? >>I'd think there might be some that wouldn't have been able to gain >>enough momentum to make it back to the station. But it's been years >>since I was on SM, so maybe it works from anywhere on the route. > >All of the points where the cars can be stopped are points from which >the car will have enough momentum to make it back down to the station, >even with a standing start. This applies even on California Screamin' >where the car may have to do that vertical loop after starting up again. Interesting. That's something I didn't know about the design of the safety systems on coasters! Patty
From: Gary Edstrom on 27 Jun 2010 14:52 On 27 Jun 2010 18:36:37 GMT, Patty Winter <patty1(a)wintertime.com> wrote: > >In article <cu5f26dnfnmv831bk1g8fhdjh3fhgjj9ar(a)4ax.com>, >Gary Edstrom <GEdstrom(a)PacBell.Net> wrote: >>On 27 Jun 2010 17:40:01 GMT, Patty Winter <patty1(a)wintertime.com> wrote: > >[unneeded quotage deleted] > > >>>I get that returning the cars to the station is easier than unloading >>>folks on the track, but were all of the stopped cars able to do that? >>>I'd think there might be some that wouldn't have been able to gain >>>enough momentum to make it back to the station. But it's been years >>>since I was on SM, so maybe it works from anywhere on the route. >> >>All of the points where the cars can be stopped are points from which >>the car will have enough momentum to make it back down to the station, >>even with a standing start. This applies even on California Screamin' >>where the car may have to do that vertical loop after starting up again. > >Interesting. That's something I didn't know about the design of the >safety systems on coasters! > >Patty Several other points to note about these stopping points: 1. Once a car has passed over a stopping point, the brake is automatically set to stop the next car coming along. The only way the brake is released is for the first car to pass the next braking point further down the track before the second train reaches it. Once any braking point traps a car, the whole system is shut down, all cars are stopped, and the system needs to be reset. 2. Even when they are not stopping you, the stopping points also control your momentum. If you are going too fast as you move into the next section of track, the brakes will slow you down just enough to reduce your momentum to the desired level. If you pay attention, you can feel this on several of Disney's coasters. 3. A couple of years ago, they had an accident on California Screamin' where one train ran into the back of another. This was caused because of too little air pressure in the air brake system. It was unable to stop the train. I always felt that this is a flaw in the design: It SHOULD NOT require air pressure to set the brake. Rather, it should require air pressure to release the brake. That way, the system would be brought safely to a stop even in the event of total air pressure failure. Gary
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