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From: Krypsis on 30 Jan 2010 03:58 On 29/01/2010 8:25 AM, ahmed123 wrote: > The man should be charged for manslaughter and not murder. <snip> > A lot of governments consider a knife as a deadly weapon and carriage of same as sufficient for "intent". It is hard to argue that it was manslaughter and not murder if he used a knife that he had on his person. Why was he carrying a knife in the first instance? I have travelled extensively in SE Asia and have never felt the need to carry a weapon of any sort for defensive purposes. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/murder If he can't control his temper, he shouldn't have been carrying a weapon. Definitely some degree of murder involved. Krypsis
From: LarbGai on 30 Jan 2010 05:26 On Jan 30, 9:58 pm, Krypsis <kryp...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > I have travelled extensively in SE Asia and have never felt the need to carry a > weapon of any sort for defensive purposes. > Krypsis ********ROTFLMAO.................A government minion (a tealady to boot) travelling extensively in SE Asia??? I'd like to see that. ;-)
From: สับปะรด on 30 Jan 2010 06:36 grace(a)lovesthailand.org wrote: > I try to avoid violence, but I think even I would have been provoked by > this. Doesn't justify killing the German, but his actions seem to have > played a big part in this. > Isn't it true that carrying a knife or a gun and using it in a dispute always comprises the risk of killing a person? I mean no one here has the full story. The old German guy would surely tell us another story if he had survived that incident. But what a dumb behavior from both man. A wise head would have given in. peace
From: none on 30 Jan 2010 09:21 A German national recently died after being stabbed by a Thai man as a result of a minor traffic incident. Police have apprehended the murderer who pleads he acted in self defence. Phuket, the 30th of January 2010 [PDN]: Wolf-Dieter Kesselheim [66] a German national, living in Phuket for the last 2 years, was stabbed to death after Mr. Pittaya Srijitraporn [32] and two of his teenage cousins, riding a motorbike, allegedly cut him off in his pickup. The incident occurred outside the Chalong Police Station but a chase continued as a result of the incident for a further few hundred meters, ending in a fatal confrontation. Allegedly, Mr. Kesselheim had become enraged over the minor traffic incident, chasing after the trio on their motorbike shouting and honking his horn for several hundred meters up the Viset Road, heading towards Rawai, Phuket. Mr. Srijitraporn explained that he decided to pull over to talk to Mr. Kesselheim, alleging that when he emerged from the pickup he appeared to be severely intoxicated and unwilling to talk the incident through. Mr. Kesselheim then allegedly punched Mr. Srijitraporn in the face and put him in a headlock. At this point Mr. Srijitraporn revealed that he had stabbed Mr. Kesselheim in the torso out of self defence, explaining that the much bigger man had overpowered him to the point he feared for his life. Mr. Srijitraporn, a tourist photographer operating around the Kata Viewpoint, continues to maintain that he acted in self-defence and that his two teenage cousins were not involved in the altercation. He has also admitted to cutting-off Mr. Kesselheim whilst riding home with his two cousins, which appears to be the cause for the preceding fatal altercation. Mr. Srijitraporn is also believed to have said that he was unaware that Mr. Kesselheim had died as a result of the stabbing, as he had left the scene immediately following his release from the headlock that Mr. Kesselheim had him in. On Saturday, Chalong police, led by Phuket Provincial Commander Pekad Tantipong conducted a re-enactment of the fatal altercation at the crime scene. At present whilst investigations and procedures are ongoing the deceased body of Mr. Kesselheim is being kept at the Chalong temple pending funeral arrangements.
From: Adder on 31 Jan 2010 07:40 "none" <oplegg(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:9ef6ccc5-49a0-4df8-8b11-01cd0108403b(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > Phuket Expat Killing: Sea Eagles Man Charged > > By Sert Tongdee > Friday, January 29, 2010 > Photo Album Above > > A 32-YEAR-OLD man, well known by tourists for his work seeking > photographs with sea eagles at Kata Viewpoint on Phuket, has confessed > to knifing a German expat in an incident of road rage. Why is it that every crime in Thailand is followed a day or so later by a "confession" and a media circus? Do the Thai police have some magical powers that enable them to solve crimes instantly? Does the fact that the "confessed" criminal has to answer questions from the media ever give anybody any cause for concern about the possibility of his chances of a fair trial being compromised? Or is it just me....????
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