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From: - Bobb - on 21 Jun 2010 10:57
Conversation with friend of mine that now lives in Vegas... we were talking
about 'how it used to be' when we first started going ( early 70's)
"...You would still lose the same amount of money that you would by today's
standards, however you could still not wait to return and start all over
again. Now you spend as much money, but the money goes to overpriced rooms,
overpriced meals, crappy service because they cut back on staff. It's a damn
shame."
==============
We used to go there a lot. We'd play thru the night ... go to see shows ...
Rickles, Carson, Cosby. We'd go there for .. big ball games ... and have a
great time. Show prices, rooms, food were reasonable - the staff was GREAT -
anyplace.
It took a while , but after the Mirage was built and upscale was the new
thing. ... by design, it was less and less "fun" and more "business". From
$1 minimum to $5 then $15, $25. It wasn't that you needed $20 more, it was
that you needed 5 times what you used to bring and most players didn't have
the bankroll to last. And didn't WANT to devote that much cash. That's why a
lot of my friends stopped going.
$1000 is one thing but $5000 for a weekend is nutty.
So even now a $20 room doesn't entice us. It costs $500 for a short notice
round-trip air ticket , $75 for lunch, $100 for dinner and a big bankroll.


From: jerry the jerk on 21 Jun 2010 13:50
On Jun 21 2010 7:57 AM, - Bobb - wrote:

> Conversation with friend of mine that now lives in Vegas... we were talking
> about 'how it used to be' when we first started going ( early 70's)
> "...You would still lose the same amount of money that you would by today's
> standards, however you could still not wait to return and start all over
> again. Now you spend as much money, but the money goes to overpriced rooms,
> overpriced meals, crappy service because they cut back on staff. It's a damn
> shame."
> ==============
> We used to go there a lot. We'd play thru the night ... go to see shows ...
> Rickles, Carson, Cosby. We'd go there for .. big ball games ... and have a
> great time. Show prices, rooms, food were reasonable - the staff was GREAT -
> anyplace.
> It took a while , but after the Mirage was built and upscale was the new
> thing. ... by design, it was less and less "fun" and more "business". From
> $1 minimum to $5 then $15, $25. It wasn't that you needed $20 more, it was
> that you needed 5 times what you used to bring and most players didn't have
> the bankroll to last. And didn't WANT to devote that much cash. That's why a
> lot of my friends stopped going.
> $1000 is one thing but $5000 for a weekend is nutty.
> So even now a $20 room doesn't entice us. It costs $500 for a short notice
> round-trip air ticket , $75 for lunch, $100 for dinner and a big bankroll.

Your absolutely correct. Can't disagree at all.

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From: Walt on 21 Jun 2010 13:51
In article <hvnukd$55a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
"- Bobb -" <bobb(a)noemail.123> wrote:

> Conversation with friend of mine that now lives in Vegas... we were talking
> about 'how it used to be' when we first started going ( early 70's)
> "...You would still lose the same amount of money that you would by today's
> standards, however you could still not wait to return and start all over
> again. Now you spend as much money, but the money goes to overpriced rooms,
> overpriced meals, crappy service because they cut back on staff. It's a damn
> shame."
> ==============
> We used to go there a lot. We'd play thru the night ... go to see shows ...
> Rickles, Carson, Cosby. We'd go there for .. big ball games ... and have a
> great time. Show prices, rooms, food were reasonable - the staff was GREAT -
> anyplace.
> It took a while , but after the Mirage was built and upscale was the new
> thing. ... by design, it was less and less "fun" and more "business". From
> $1 minimum to $5 then $15, $25. It wasn't that you needed $20 more, it was
> that you needed 5 times what you used to bring and most players didn't have
> the bankroll to last. And didn't WANT to devote that much cash. That's why a
> lot of my friends stopped going.
> $1000 is one thing but $5000 for a weekend is nutty.
> So even now a $20 room doesn't entice us. It costs $500 for a short notice
> round-trip air ticket , $75 for lunch, $100 for dinner and a big bankroll.

The good old days often weren't that good upon closer examination.

A $500 airfare today is the inflation-adjusted equivalent of $95.79 in 1972.

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

Cheap, nice rooms are widely available thru the Internet.

In 1972, dining options were much more limited. You didn't have the
tremendous variety of cuisines to choose from that you have now. Yes, you can
spend $100 or more on a dinner, but you can also spend $6.99 for a good hunk
of steak w/trimmings at Ellis Island (equivalent of $1.34 in 1972 dollars).
The bar at the Palm restaurant (Caesars) has some tasty happy-hour appetizers
for $3.50 (67 cents in 1972 dollars). Coupons, vouchers and certificates for
discounted meals abound.

I'm no expert about gamlbing, but I think there are plenty of $10 tables to be
found if you look.

As for shows, Carson is dead, Cosby is retired, but Rickles still does weekend
gigs, most recently at the Orleans. I just saw a couple of Cirque
spectaculars for the 1972 equivalent of $12.

And of course, in 1972 the hotel-casinos were "family" businesses, while today
they are mostly run by big corporations. Okay, I got nothing here.

--- Walt
From: Double Down Now! on 21 Jun 2010 14:59
Personally, I think folks can stay Downtown and get very affordable
rooms and meals. The service of course is always iffy and YMMV and
that's on the Strip as well as Downtown. On the Strip it's tougher to
get affordable rooms of course, but if they're gamblers and are
willing to drop $100-$200 in their favorite hotel's slot machines they
should be able to get room offers for 1/2 price or less, especially
nowadays. Anytime I don't have comp offers for The Strip, I stay at
the GNugget downtown. Fabulous property, just fabulous:

http://www.goldennugget.com/specials/eblasts/google.html?gclid=CLO0sbmbyJ8CFRq1sgodeVIH_Q


From: TeddysDad on 21 Jun 2010 15:12
On Jun 21, 11:59 am, "Double Down Now!" <double.down....(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Personally, I think folks can stay Downtown and get very affordable
> rooms and meals. The service of course is always iffy and YMMV and
> that's on the Strip as well as Downtown. On the Strip it's tougher to
> get affordable rooms of course, but if they're gamblers and are
> willing to drop $100-$200 in their favorite hotel's slot machines they
> should be able to get room offers for 1/2 price or less, especially
> nowadays.  Anytime I don't have comp offers for The Strip, I stay at
> the GNugget downtown. Fabulous property, just fabulous:
>
> http://www.goldennugget.com/specials/eblasts/google.html?gclid=CLO0sb....

My first trip to Vegas was 1978, when I made it to 21 yrs. 'Way' back
then, being here in the great and glorious Pacific Northwest, I "got"
to save up for trips to Vegas/Reno. I actually miss that. Now, I'm a
fifteen minute drive from the local Indian (whoops! Native American)
place. I can remember when green chip play on a craps table could
make you a "somebody". I miss that...

I still love going to Vegas. I (we) just don't as much anymore. It's
over-priced, over-hyped, but, still, how I love the fact that it can
be "over the top". In MY mind, it is still Vegas, Baby........
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