From: aquachimp on
On May 22, 4:44 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...(a)verizon.net>
wrote:
>  aquachimp  wrote  on Sat, 22 May 2010 06:22:38 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > Now, obviously from the sheer weight of number of people
> > turning up at Scam Central (and that was just while we were
> > there)  clearly this say something about the Cretan Holiday
> > Experience ... just that if I were the Cretan authorities,
> > rather than relying on that hidden criteria as a measure of
> > success through which to further promote Crete,  I'd go for
> > chucking these scamsters out of my country. Or at least try to
> > ensure that all tourists are advised to go around looking as
> > miserable as possible at all times.
>
> As Douglas Hoffstadter put it : 'Epimenides was a Cretan who made one
> immortal statement: "All Cretans are liars."  ' The quotation from
> Epimenides has actually been around since the third century BC.

Aah, but "immortal" and "true" are evidentially not mutually
exclusive, or at least this experience offered no such evidence given
that the scammers were of just about every nationality except Greek.
(assuming the taxis were independent)
>
>
From: aquachimp on
On May 22, 4:38 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On May 22, 3:22 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 22, 3:00 pm, d4g...(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> > (*)) wrote:
> > > Andy Pandy <spam8ti...(a)wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:
> > > > "aquachimp" <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > >news:ba3aa7bd-3e9c-4c1a-87aa-ec18110bfeb5(a)q13g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing
> > > > > here.
> > > > > Or does it go by another name.
>
> > > > I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here
> > > > are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to
> > > > typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate.
>
> > > Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm
> > > skint? :)
>
> > Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime
> > target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all.
> > It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination
> > tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists.
> > No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun
> > and clearly enjoying their holiday.
>
>  gullible ?!

Hmm, can't say I saw a mention of gullible.
http://www.ehow.com/how_2272842_spot-scratch-card-travel-scam.html

However, there is a scientific basis that would agree with that, or at
least from what I read in a fairly recent New Scientist, or Scientific
American magazine which pointed out that happiness makes people more
prone to being gullible.

What might interest you though is that there's a sort of "save our
turtles" campaign going on there. But no, it 's not the BP ones; We
saw the kiosk near the opening to the harbour car park. Previously,
the holiday rep had mentioned something about turtles coming ashore to
nest and that was about all he seemed to know about the place, though
it seems now that his direction were about 15 km out (he was
suggesting to the West of Scam Central, when in fact it's to the east
and , oh, they don't do the nesting gig until late July -to August, so
he got that bit wrong too.
From: Martin on
On 22/05/10 16:38, BP killed my turtle wrote:
> On May 22, 3:22 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> On May 22, 3:00 pm, d4g...(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
>>
>> (*)) wrote:
>>> Andy Pandy <spam8ti...(a)wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> "aquachimp" <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:ba3aa7bd-3e9c-4c1a-87aa-ec18110bfeb5(a)q13g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing
>>>>> here.
>>>>> Or does it go by another name.
>>
>>>> I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here
>>>> are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to
>>>> typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate.
>>
>>> Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm
>>> skint? :)
>>
>> Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime
>> target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all.
>> It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination
>> tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists.
>> No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun
>> and clearly enjoying their holiday.
>>
> gullible ?!

In Lanzarote they were indiscriminate. We had flu, hated the place and
even tried to go home a week early and they still accosted us.
From: BP killed my turtle on
On May 22, 5:16 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> On May 22, 4:38 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 3:22 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 3:00 pm, d4g...(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> > > (*)) wrote:
> > > > Andy Pandy <spam8ti...(a)wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > "aquachimp" <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > >news:ba3aa7bd-3e9c-4c1a-87aa-ec18110bfeb5(a)q13g2000vbm.googlegroups..com...
> > > > > > Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing
> > > > > > here.
> > > > > > Or does it go by another name.
>
> > > > > I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here
> > > > > are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to
> > > > > typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate.
>
> > > > Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm
> > > > skint? :)
>
> > > Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime
> > > target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all.
> > > It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination
> > > tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists.
> > > No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun
> > > and clearly enjoying their holiday.
>
> >  gullible ?!
>
> Hmm, can't say I saw a mention of gullible.http://www.ehow.com/how_2272842_spot-scratch-card-travel-scam.html
>
> However, there is a scientific basis that would agree with that, or at
> least from what I read in a fairly recent New Scientist, or Scientific
> American  magazine which pointed out that happiness makes people more
> prone to being gullible.
>
> What might interest you though is that there's a  sort of "save our
> turtles" campaign going on there. But no, it 's not the BP ones; We
> saw the kiosk near the opening to the harbour car park. Previously,
> the holiday rep had mentioned something about turtles coming ashore to
> nest and that was about all he seemed to know about the place, though
> it seems now that his direction were about 15 km out (he was
> suggesting to the West of Scam Central, when in fact it's to the east
> and , oh, they don't do the nesting gig until late July -to August, so
> he got that bit wrong too.

Be wary of people who approach you....nuff sed
From: aquachimp on
On May 22, 5:55 pm, Martin <mar...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 22/05/10 16:38, BP killed my turtle wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 3:22 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> On May 22, 3:00 pm, d4g...(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> >> (*)) wrote:
> >>> Andy Pandy <spam8ti...(a)wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> "aquachimp" <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>news:ba3aa7bd-3e9c-4c1a-87aa-ec18110bfeb5(a)q13g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing
> >>>>> here.
> >>>>> Or does it go by another name.
>
> >>>> I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here
> >>>> are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to
> >>>> typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate.
>
> >>> Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm
> >>> skint? :)
>
> >> Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime
> >> target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all.
> >> It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination
> >> tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists.
> >> No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun
> >> and clearly enjoying their holiday.
>
> >  gullible ?!
>
> In Lanzarote they were indiscriminate. We had flu, hated the place and
> even tried to go home a week early and they still accosted us.

ROLF!