From: BP killed my turtle on
On May 23, 3:08 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> On May 23, 2:39 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 12:45 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 12:36 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 23, 10:31 am, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 23, 8:19 am, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:> On May 22, 9:13 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > snippy
>
> > > > > > > > > Cautiously succinctly expressed. But easier said than done.
>
> > > > > > > > > Put it this way,  I popped along here into Usenet Street  and in
> > > > > > > > > posting this thread I have in effect approached everybody.. What's
> > > > > > > > > more, though not Greek, I did so bearing the Gifts of information and
> > > > > > > > > opportunity/excuse to converse.
>
> > > > > > > > > Not everyone has avoided me.
>
> > > > > > > > > A holiday, such as what I've just had, is a feast of freedom and
> > > > > > > > > borrowing the phrase "we are what we eat" feasting of freedom lends us
> > > > > > > > > to living more freely and, I suspect, even free from a conscious sense
> > > > > > > > > of freedom. So when approached, as we were, the under current sense of
> > > > > > > > > freedom expressed itself  thus, like someone whispering in your ear
> > > > > > > > > saying... ooh go on, listen, check it out, you'll be doing him a
> > > > > > > > > favour, you're free to walk away any time you want.
>
> > > > > > > > > Trouble is, the same undercurrent, which is the real Trojan Horse at
> > > > > > > > > work here expresses itself in the same way as each greater step of
> > > > > > > > > risk is encountered. And that's why I think (though making it up as I
> > > > > > > > > go along) is why some people get duped, other than those who are
> > > > > > > > > tortured into it through tedium, hunger, thirst or as one couple I've
> > > > > > > > > since read about, the woman was diabetic, became ill as a consequence
> > > > > > > > > of all the missed meal delays, but the scammers still wouldn't let
> > > > > > > > > them go until the husband signed on the dotted line.
>
> > > > > > > > going on holiday is no excuse for unplugging your brain....
>
> > > > > > > I'm not sure what you're saying with that generalisation.
>
> > > > > > > If you're in Greece and get approached by someone speaking Dutch,
> > > > > > > asking if perhaps you are Dutch, but you're not and don't speak a word
> > > > > > > of it and subsequently haven't understood a word... the fact that you
> > > > > > > simply continue on your way with hardly a shrug does not amount to
> > > > > > > evidence  that you've kept your brain plugged in.
>
> > > > > > > Equally, if,say you're English and get approached my someone with a
> > > > > > > British accent enquiring if you're English, running away like your
> > > > > > > scared of your own shadow doesn't mean your brain is plugged in any
> > > > > > > more than taking a moment to engage in line with all the traditions of
> > > > > > > your upbringing means you've unplugged your brain.
>
> > > > > > would you have done this in your own country ?
>
> > > > > Hmm, I'm unsure what you mean by my "own country"
>
> > > > you dont know where you live ?!
>
> > > I don't own a country. I know where I live but when locals ask me
> > > where I'm from, they're not usually asking for my current address.
> > > Beyond that it's a matter of working out do they mean my nationality,
> > > or where I've lived the most, or most recently, (as in where have I
> > > travelled from).
>
> > so there are 2 solutions, say nothing, or just bore the scammers into
> > submission as you are doing to me
>
> > ps zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Awww. And just when I was wondering why someone advocating wariness
> had not mentioned the one thing that had occurred to me as a bit odd
> the moment the street guy mentioned promoting Greece and Crete.
> Why approach tourists already there?
>
> Now if you'd just sign here... and here... and (turns page) here,
> here, and there and that'll be all.
>
> (OK, so I'm making up that bit cos we never got that far)
>
> Oh and by the way here is your free holiday voucher containing no less
> than 5 options ranging from you having to pay a nominal sum to cover
> travel taxes, insurance and so forth, to the option where you get a
> generous discount on the resort, flights and so on.
> Of course, regardless of which option you choose, and you have 18
> months to avail of this offer, once you have informed us which one it
> is, we will choose when you can go within a 15 to 65 day period of our
> choosing.
> We will also choose where you get to go, how you will get there and
> from where your main border point of departure will be (no matter how
> unrealistic or inconvenient it may be for you).
> lastly, please note that whereas we have between 15 and 65 days to
> decide your fate, you have just 36 hours to inform us of your decision
> to accept or not, BUT, you must inform us of your decision by phone
> AND registered post.
> Failure to do so in that time (no excuses) will not only mean that you
> forfeit your free holiday, but you will be liable for the entire cost
> of cancellation
>
> (I don't actually understand what precisely is meant by "entire cost
> of cancellation", it might be the cost of a few phone calls, or bits
> of admin, or the cost of accommodation, travel etc.)
>
> Enjoy the rest of your holiday.

....and now you're just wasting my time....what are you trying to sell
again ?
From: aquachimp on
On May 23, 3:53 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On May 23, 3:08 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 2:39 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 12:45 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 23, 12:36 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 23, 10:31 am, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 23, 8:19 am, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo..com>
> > > > > > wrote:> On May 22, 9:13 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > snippy
>
> > > > > > > > > > Cautiously succinctly expressed. But easier said than done.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Put it this way,  I popped along here into Usenet Street  and in
> > > > > > > > > > posting this thread I have in effect approached everybody. What's
> > > > > > > > > > more, though not Greek, I did so bearing the Gifts of information and
> > > > > > > > > > opportunity/excuse to converse.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Not everyone has avoided me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > A holiday, such as what I've just had, is a feast of freedom and
> > > > > > > > > > borrowing the phrase "we are what we eat" feasting of freedom lends us
> > > > > > > > > > to living more freely and, I suspect, even free from a conscious sense
> > > > > > > > > > of freedom. So when approached, as we were, the under current sense of
> > > > > > > > > > freedom expressed itself  thus, like someone whispering in your ear
> > > > > > > > > > saying... ooh go on, listen, check it out, you'll be doing him a
> > > > > > > > > > favour, you're free to walk away any time you want.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Trouble is, the same undercurrent, which is the real Trojan Horse at
> > > > > > > > > > work here expresses itself in the same way as each greater step of
> > > > > > > > > > risk is encountered. And that's why I think (though making it up as I
> > > > > > > > > > go along) is why some people get duped, other than those who are
> > > > > > > > > > tortured into it through tedium, hunger, thirst or as one couple I've
> > > > > > > > > > since read about, the woman was diabetic, became ill as a consequence
> > > > > > > > > > of all the missed meal delays, but the scammers still wouldn't let
> > > > > > > > > > them go until the husband signed on the dotted line.
>
> > > > > > > > > going on holiday is no excuse for unplugging your brain.....
>
> > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you're saying with that generalisation.
>
> > > > > > > > If you're in Greece and get approached by someone speaking Dutch,
> > > > > > > > asking if perhaps you are Dutch, but you're not and don't speak a word
> > > > > > > > of it and subsequently haven't understood a word... the fact that you
> > > > > > > > simply continue on your way with hardly a shrug does not amount to
> > > > > > > > evidence  that you've kept your brain plugged in.
>
> > > > > > > > Equally, if,say you're English and get approached my someone with a
> > > > > > > > British accent enquiring if you're English, running away like your
> > > > > > > > scared of your own shadow doesn't mean your brain is plugged in any
> > > > > > > > more than taking a moment to engage in line with all the traditions of
> > > > > > > > your upbringing means you've unplugged your brain.
>
> > > > > > > would you have done this in your own country ?
>
> > > > > > Hmm, I'm unsure what you mean by my "own country"
>
> > > > > you dont know where you live ?!
>
> > > > I don't own a country. I know where I live but when locals ask me
> > > > where I'm from, they're not usually asking for my current address.
> > > > Beyond that it's a matter of working out do they mean my nationality,
> > > > or where I've lived the most, or most recently, (as in where have I
> > > > travelled from).
>
> > > so there are 2 solutions, say nothing, or just bore the scammers into
> > > submission as you are doing to me
>
> > > ps zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> > Awww. And just when I was wondering why someone advocating wariness
> > had not mentioned the one thing that had occurred to me as a bit odd
> > the moment the street guy mentioned promoting Greece and Crete.
> > Why approach tourists already there?
>
> > Now if you'd just sign here... and here... and (turns page) here,
> > here, and there and that'll be all.
>
> > (OK, so I'm making up that bit cos we never got that far)
>
> > Oh and by the way here is your free holiday voucher containing no less
> > than 5 options ranging from you having to pay a nominal sum to cover
> > travel taxes, insurance and so forth, to the option where you get a
> > generous discount on the resort, flights and so on.
> > Of course, regardless of which option you choose, and you have 18
> > months to avail of this offer, once you have informed us which one it
> > is, we will choose when you can go within a 15 to 65 day period of our
> > choosing.
> > We will also choose where you get to go, how you will get there and
> > from where your main border point of departure will be (no matter how
> > unrealistic or inconvenient it may be for you).
> > lastly, please note that whereas we have between 15 and 65 days to
> > decide your fate, you have just 36 hours to inform us of your decision
> > to accept or not, BUT, you must inform us of your decision by phone
> > AND registered post.
> > Failure to do so in that time (no excuses) will not only mean that you
> > forfeit your free holiday, but you will be liable for the entire cost
> > of cancellation
>
> > (I don't actually understand what precisely is meant by "entire cost
> > of cancellation", it might be the cost of a few phone calls, or bits
> > of admin, or the cost of accommodation, travel etc.)
>
> > Enjoy the rest of your holiday.
>
> ...and now you're just wasting my time....what are you trying to sell
> again ?

Sell? nah, you've got that all wrong ... my friend.... I merely came
extending the gift of information and chance to chatter for anyone as
might wish to chomp on either.
From: BP killed my turtle on
On May 23, 4:04 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> On May 23, 3:53 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 3:08 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 2:39 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 23, 12:45 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 23, 12:36 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 23, 10:31 am, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve..co.uk>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 23, 8:19 am, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:> On May 22, 9:13 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > snippy
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Cautiously succinctly expressed. But easier said than done.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Put it this way,  I popped along here into Usenet Street  and in
> > > > > > > > > > > posting this thread I have in effect approached everybody. What's
> > > > > > > > > > > more, though not Greek, I did so bearing the Gifts of information and
> > > > > > > > > > > opportunity/excuse to converse.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone has avoided me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A holiday, such as what I've just had, is a feast of freedom and
> > > > > > > > > > > borrowing the phrase "we are what we eat" feasting of freedom lends us
> > > > > > > > > > > to living more freely and, I suspect, even free from a conscious sense
> > > > > > > > > > > of freedom. So when approached, as we were, the under current sense of
> > > > > > > > > > > freedom expressed itself  thus, like someone whispering in your ear
> > > > > > > > > > > saying... ooh go on, listen, check it out, you'll be doing him a
> > > > > > > > > > > favour, you're free to walk away any time you want.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Trouble is, the same undercurrent, which is the real Trojan Horse at
> > > > > > > > > > > work here expresses itself in the same way as each greater step of
> > > > > > > > > > > risk is encountered. And that's why I think (though making it up as I
> > > > > > > > > > > go along) is why some people get duped, other than those who are
> > > > > > > > > > > tortured into it through tedium, hunger, thirst or as one couple I've
> > > > > > > > > > > since read about, the woman was diabetic, became ill as a consequence
> > > > > > > > > > > of all the missed meal delays, but the scammers still wouldn't let
> > > > > > > > > > > them go until the husband signed on the dotted line.
>
> > > > > > > > > > going on holiday is no excuse for unplugging your brain.....
>
> > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you're saying with that generalisation.
>
> > > > > > > > > If you're in Greece and get approached by someone speaking Dutch,
> > > > > > > > > asking if perhaps you are Dutch, but you're not and don't speak a word
> > > > > > > > > of it and subsequently haven't understood a word... the fact that you
> > > > > > > > > simply continue on your way with hardly a shrug does not amount to
> > > > > > > > > evidence  that you've kept your brain plugged in.
>
> > > > > > > > > Equally, if,say you're English and get approached my someone with a
> > > > > > > > > British accent enquiring if you're English, running away like your
> > > > > > > > > scared of your own shadow doesn't mean your brain is plugged in any
> > > > > > > > > more than taking a moment to engage in line with all the traditions of
> > > > > > > > > your upbringing means you've unplugged your brain.
>
> > > > > > > > would you have done this in your own country ?
>
> > > > > > > Hmm, I'm unsure what you mean by my "own country"
>
> > > > > > you dont know where you live ?!
>
> > > > > I don't own a country. I know where I live but when locals ask me
> > > > > where I'm from, they're not usually asking for my current address..
> > > > > Beyond that it's a matter of working out do they mean my nationality,
> > > > > or where I've lived the most, or most recently, (as in where have I
> > > > > travelled from).
>
> > > > so there are 2 solutions, say nothing, or just bore the scammers into
> > > > submission as you are doing to me
>
> > > > ps zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> > > Awww. And just when I was wondering why someone advocating wariness
> > > had not mentioned the one thing that had occurred to me as a bit odd
> > > the moment the street guy mentioned promoting Greece and Crete.
> > > Why approach tourists already there?
>
> > > Now if you'd just sign here... and here... and (turns page) here,
> > > here, and there and that'll be all.
>
> > > (OK, so I'm making up that bit cos we never got that far)
>
> > > Oh and by the way here is your free holiday voucher containing no less
> > > than 5 options ranging from you having to pay a nominal sum to cover
> > > travel taxes, insurance and so forth, to the option where you get a
> > > generous discount on the resort, flights and so on.
> > > Of course, regardless of which option you choose, and you have 18
> > > months to avail of this offer, once you have informed us which one it
> > > is, we will choose when you can go within a 15 to 65 day period of our
> > > choosing.
> > > We will also choose where you get to go, how you will get there and
> > > from where your main border point of departure will be (no matter how
> > > unrealistic or inconvenient it may be for you).
> > > lastly, please note that whereas we have between 15 and 65 days to
> > > decide your fate, you have just 36 hours to inform us of your decision
> > > to accept or not, BUT, you must inform us of your decision by phone
> > > AND registered post.
> > > Failure to do so in that time (no excuses) will not only mean that you
> > > forfeit your free holiday, but you will be liable for the entire cost
> > > of cancellation
>
> > > (I don't actually understand what precisely is meant by "entire cost
> > > of cancellation", it might be the cost of a few phone calls, or bits
> > > of admin, or the cost of accommodation, travel etc.)
>
> > > Enjoy the rest of your holiday.
>
> > ...and now you're just wasting my time....what are you trying to sell
> > again ?
>
> Sell? nah, you've got that all wrong ... my friend.... I merely came
> extending the gift of information and chance to chatter  for anyone as
> might wish to chomp on either.

theres a duchess of yawk joke in here somehwere...
From: Frank Hucklenbroich on
Am Sat, 22 May 2010 11:12:48 +0100 schrieb Andy Pandy:

> Worst place we went to for this was Gran Canaria in the early 90's -
> they were *everywhere*, on the beach, in the shopping centres, down
> quiet streets, and ignoring them didn't work, they'd follow you down
> the street. Apparently they got paid �50 for every couple they got
> along to the presentations, regardless of whether they signed up!

Yes, I remember that. They had those guys speaking many different
languages, and at times I tried to fool them saying I didn't understand
their language. When they asked where I come from I would say "Russki" or
something like that, but in the end they came up with someone who actually
spoke russian ;-)

Regards,

Frank
From: Surreyman on
On 25 May, 09:44, Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroic...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> Am Sat, 22 May 2010 11:12:48 +0100 schrieb Andy Pandy:
>
> > Worst place we went to for this was Gran Canaria in the early 90's -
> > they were *everywhere*, on the beach, in the shopping centres, down
> > quiet streets, and ignoring them didn't work, they'd follow you down
> > the street. Apparently they got paid £50 for every couple they got
> > along to the presentations, regardless of whether they signed up!
>
> Yes, I remember that. They had those guys speaking many different
> languages, and at times I tried to fool them saying I didn't understand
> their language. When they asked where I come from I would say "Russki" or
> something like that, but in the end they came up with someone who actually
> spoke russian ;-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Frank

I use Welsh, Hasn't failed yet.