From: BP killed my turtle on 23 May 2010 09:53 On May 23, 3:08 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > On May 23, 2:39 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > On May 23, 12:45 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > > On May 23, 12:36 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > On May 23, 10:31 am, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On May 23, 8:19 am, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > > > > > wrote:> On May 22, 9:13 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > snippy > > > > > > > > > > Cautiously succinctly expressed. But easier said than done. > > > > > > > > > > Put it this way, I popped along here into Usenet Street and in > > > > > > > > > posting this thread I have in effect approached everybody.. What's > > > > > > > > > more, though not Greek, I did so bearing the Gifts of information and > > > > > > > > > opportunity/excuse to converse. > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone has avoided me. > > > > > > > > > > A holiday, such as what I've just had, is a feast of freedom and > > > > > > > > > borrowing the phrase "we are what we eat" feasting of freedom lends us > > > > > > > > > to living more freely and, I suspect, even free from a conscious sense > > > > > > > > > of freedom. So when approached, as we were, the under current sense of > > > > > > > > > freedom expressed itself thus, like someone whispering in your ear > > > > > > > > > saying... ooh go on, listen, check it out, you'll be doing him a > > > > > > > > > favour, you're free to walk away any time you want. > > > > > > > > > > Trouble is, the same undercurrent, which is the real Trojan Horse at > > > > > > > > > work here expresses itself in the same way as each greater step of > > > > > > > > > risk is encountered. And that's why I think (though making it up as I > > > > > > > > > go along) is why some people get duped, other than those who are > > > > > > > > > tortured into it through tedium, hunger, thirst or as one couple I've > > > > > > > > > since read about, the woman was diabetic, became ill as a consequence > > > > > > > > > of all the missed meal delays, but the scammers still wouldn't let > > > > > > > > > them go until the husband signed on the dotted line. > > > > > > > > > going on holiday is no excuse for unplugging your brain.... > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you're saying with that generalisation. > > > > > > > > If you're in Greece and get approached by someone speaking Dutch, > > > > > > > asking if perhaps you are Dutch, but you're not and don't speak a word > > > > > > > of it and subsequently haven't understood a word... the fact that you > > > > > > > simply continue on your way with hardly a shrug does not amount to > > > > > > > evidence that you've kept your brain plugged in. > > > > > > > > Equally, if,say you're English and get approached my someone with a > > > > > > > British accent enquiring if you're English, running away like your > > > > > > > scared of your own shadow doesn't mean your brain is plugged in any > > > > > > > more than taking a moment to engage in line with all the traditions of > > > > > > > your upbringing means you've unplugged your brain. > > > > > > > would you have done this in your own country ? > > > > > > Hmm, I'm unsure what you mean by my "own country" > > > > > you dont know where you live ?! > > > > I don't own a country. I know where I live but when locals ask me > > > where I'm from, they're not usually asking for my current address. > > > Beyond that it's a matter of working out do they mean my nationality, > > > or where I've lived the most, or most recently, (as in where have I > > > travelled from). > > > so there are 2 solutions, say nothing, or just bore the scammers into > > submission as you are doing to me > > > ps zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > > Awww. And just when I was wondering why someone advocating wariness > had not mentioned the one thing that had occurred to me as a bit odd > the moment the street guy mentioned promoting Greece and Crete. > Why approach tourists already there? > > Now if you'd just sign here... and here... and (turns page) here, > here, and there and that'll be all. > > (OK, so I'm making up that bit cos we never got that far) > > Oh and by the way here is your free holiday voucher containing no less > than 5 options ranging from you having to pay a nominal sum to cover > travel taxes, insurance and so forth, to the option where you get a > generous discount on the resort, flights and so on. > Of course, regardless of which option you choose, and you have 18 > months to avail of this offer, once you have informed us which one it > is, we will choose when you can go within a 15 to 65 day period of our > choosing. > We will also choose where you get to go, how you will get there and > from where your main border point of departure will be (no matter how > unrealistic or inconvenient it may be for you). > lastly, please note that whereas we have between 15 and 65 days to > decide your fate, you have just 36 hours to inform us of your decision > to accept or not, BUT, you must inform us of your decision by phone > AND registered post. > Failure to do so in that time (no excuses) will not only mean that you > forfeit your free holiday, but you will be liable for the entire cost > of cancellation > > (I don't actually understand what precisely is meant by "entire cost > of cancellation", it might be the cost of a few phone calls, or bits > of admin, or the cost of accommodation, travel etc.) > > Enjoy the rest of your holiday. ....and now you're just wasting my time....what are you trying to sell again ?
From: aquachimp on 23 May 2010 10:04 On May 23, 3:53 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 23, 3:08 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote: > > > > > On May 23, 2:39 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > On May 23, 12:45 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > > wrote: > > > > > On May 23, 12:36 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On May 23, 10:31 am, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On May 23, 8:19 am, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo..com> > > > > > > wrote:> On May 22, 9:13 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > snippy > > > > > > > > > > > Cautiously succinctly expressed. But easier said than done. > > > > > > > > > > > Put it this way, I popped along here into Usenet Street and in > > > > > > > > > > posting this thread I have in effect approached everybody. What's > > > > > > > > > > more, though not Greek, I did so bearing the Gifts of information and > > > > > > > > > > opportunity/excuse to converse. > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone has avoided me. > > > > > > > > > > > A holiday, such as what I've just had, is a feast of freedom and > > > > > > > > > > borrowing the phrase "we are what we eat" feasting of freedom lends us > > > > > > > > > > to living more freely and, I suspect, even free from a conscious sense > > > > > > > > > > of freedom. So when approached, as we were, the under current sense of > > > > > > > > > > freedom expressed itself thus, like someone whispering in your ear > > > > > > > > > > saying... ooh go on, listen, check it out, you'll be doing him a > > > > > > > > > > favour, you're free to walk away any time you want. > > > > > > > > > > > Trouble is, the same undercurrent, which is the real Trojan Horse at > > > > > > > > > > work here expresses itself in the same way as each greater step of > > > > > > > > > > risk is encountered. And that's why I think (though making it up as I > > > > > > > > > > go along) is why some people get duped, other than those who are > > > > > > > > > > tortured into it through tedium, hunger, thirst or as one couple I've > > > > > > > > > > since read about, the woman was diabetic, became ill as a consequence > > > > > > > > > > of all the missed meal delays, but the scammers still wouldn't let > > > > > > > > > > them go until the husband signed on the dotted line. > > > > > > > > > > going on holiday is no excuse for unplugging your brain..... > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you're saying with that generalisation. > > > > > > > > > If you're in Greece and get approached by someone speaking Dutch, > > > > > > > > asking if perhaps you are Dutch, but you're not and don't speak a word > > > > > > > > of it and subsequently haven't understood a word... the fact that you > > > > > > > > simply continue on your way with hardly a shrug does not amount to > > > > > > > > evidence that you've kept your brain plugged in. > > > > > > > > > Equally, if,say you're English and get approached my someone with a > > > > > > > > British accent enquiring if you're English, running away like your > > > > > > > > scared of your own shadow doesn't mean your brain is plugged in any > > > > > > > > more than taking a moment to engage in line with all the traditions of > > > > > > > > your upbringing means you've unplugged your brain. > > > > > > > > would you have done this in your own country ? > > > > > > > Hmm, I'm unsure what you mean by my "own country" > > > > > > you dont know where you live ?! > > > > > I don't own a country. I know where I live but when locals ask me > > > > where I'm from, they're not usually asking for my current address. > > > > Beyond that it's a matter of working out do they mean my nationality, > > > > or where I've lived the most, or most recently, (as in where have I > > > > travelled from). > > > > so there are 2 solutions, say nothing, or just bore the scammers into > > > submission as you are doing to me > > > > ps zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > > > Awww. And just when I was wondering why someone advocating wariness > > had not mentioned the one thing that had occurred to me as a bit odd > > the moment the street guy mentioned promoting Greece and Crete. > > Why approach tourists already there? > > > Now if you'd just sign here... and here... and (turns page) here, > > here, and there and that'll be all. > > > (OK, so I'm making up that bit cos we never got that far) > > > Oh and by the way here is your free holiday voucher containing no less > > than 5 options ranging from you having to pay a nominal sum to cover > > travel taxes, insurance and so forth, to the option where you get a > > generous discount on the resort, flights and so on. > > Of course, regardless of which option you choose, and you have 18 > > months to avail of this offer, once you have informed us which one it > > is, we will choose when you can go within a 15 to 65 day period of our > > choosing. > > We will also choose where you get to go, how you will get there and > > from where your main border point of departure will be (no matter how > > unrealistic or inconvenient it may be for you). > > lastly, please note that whereas we have between 15 and 65 days to > > decide your fate, you have just 36 hours to inform us of your decision > > to accept or not, BUT, you must inform us of your decision by phone > > AND registered post. > > Failure to do so in that time (no excuses) will not only mean that you > > forfeit your free holiday, but you will be liable for the entire cost > > of cancellation > > > (I don't actually understand what precisely is meant by "entire cost > > of cancellation", it might be the cost of a few phone calls, or bits > > of admin, or the cost of accommodation, travel etc.) > > > Enjoy the rest of your holiday. > > ...and now you're just wasting my time....what are you trying to sell > again ? Sell? nah, you've got that all wrong ... my friend.... I merely came extending the gift of information and chance to chatter for anyone as might wish to chomp on either.
From: BP killed my turtle on 23 May 2010 12:28 On May 23, 4:04 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > On May 23, 3:53 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > On May 23, 3:08 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > > On May 23, 2:39 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > On May 23, 12:45 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On May 23, 12:36 pm, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On May 23, 10:31 am, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve..co.uk> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 23, 8:19 am, BP killed my turtle <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> > > > > > > > wrote:> On May 22, 9:13 pm, aquachimp <aquach...(a)aquachimp.freeserve.co.uk> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > snippy > > > > > > > > > > > > Cautiously succinctly expressed. But easier said than done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Put it this way, I popped along here into Usenet Street and in > > > > > > > > > > > posting this thread I have in effect approached everybody. What's > > > > > > > > > > > more, though not Greek, I did so bearing the Gifts of information and > > > > > > > > > > > opportunity/excuse to converse. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone has avoided me. > > > > > > > > > > > > A holiday, such as what I've just had, is a feast of freedom and > > > > > > > > > > > borrowing the phrase "we are what we eat" feasting of freedom lends us > > > > > > > > > > > to living more freely and, I suspect, even free from a conscious sense > > > > > > > > > > > of freedom. So when approached, as we were, the under current sense of > > > > > > > > > > > freedom expressed itself thus, like someone whispering in your ear > > > > > > > > > > > saying... ooh go on, listen, check it out, you'll be doing him a > > > > > > > > > > > favour, you're free to walk away any time you want. > > > > > > > > > > > > Trouble is, the same undercurrent, which is the real Trojan Horse at > > > > > > > > > > > work here expresses itself in the same way as each greater step of > > > > > > > > > > > risk is encountered. And that's why I think (though making it up as I > > > > > > > > > > > go along) is why some people get duped, other than those who are > > > > > > > > > > > tortured into it through tedium, hunger, thirst or as one couple I've > > > > > > > > > > > since read about, the woman was diabetic, became ill as a consequence > > > > > > > > > > > of all the missed meal delays, but the scammers still wouldn't let > > > > > > > > > > > them go until the husband signed on the dotted line. > > > > > > > > > > > going on holiday is no excuse for unplugging your brain..... > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you're saying with that generalisation. > > > > > > > > > > If you're in Greece and get approached by someone speaking Dutch, > > > > > > > > > asking if perhaps you are Dutch, but you're not and don't speak a word > > > > > > > > > of it and subsequently haven't understood a word... the fact that you > > > > > > > > > simply continue on your way with hardly a shrug does not amount to > > > > > > > > > evidence that you've kept your brain plugged in. > > > > > > > > > > Equally, if,say you're English and get approached my someone with a > > > > > > > > > British accent enquiring if you're English, running away like your > > > > > > > > > scared of your own shadow doesn't mean your brain is plugged in any > > > > > > > > > more than taking a moment to engage in line with all the traditions of > > > > > > > > > your upbringing means you've unplugged your brain. > > > > > > > > > would you have done this in your own country ? > > > > > > > > Hmm, I'm unsure what you mean by my "own country" > > > > > > > you dont know where you live ?! > > > > > > I don't own a country. I know where I live but when locals ask me > > > > > where I'm from, they're not usually asking for my current address.. > > > > > Beyond that it's a matter of working out do they mean my nationality, > > > > > or where I've lived the most, or most recently, (as in where have I > > > > > travelled from). > > > > > so there are 2 solutions, say nothing, or just bore the scammers into > > > > submission as you are doing to me > > > > > ps zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > > > > Awww. And just when I was wondering why someone advocating wariness > > > had not mentioned the one thing that had occurred to me as a bit odd > > > the moment the street guy mentioned promoting Greece and Crete. > > > Why approach tourists already there? > > > > Now if you'd just sign here... and here... and (turns page) here, > > > here, and there and that'll be all. > > > > (OK, so I'm making up that bit cos we never got that far) > > > > Oh and by the way here is your free holiday voucher containing no less > > > than 5 options ranging from you having to pay a nominal sum to cover > > > travel taxes, insurance and so forth, to the option where you get a > > > generous discount on the resort, flights and so on. > > > Of course, regardless of which option you choose, and you have 18 > > > months to avail of this offer, once you have informed us which one it > > > is, we will choose when you can go within a 15 to 65 day period of our > > > choosing. > > > We will also choose where you get to go, how you will get there and > > > from where your main border point of departure will be (no matter how > > > unrealistic or inconvenient it may be for you). > > > lastly, please note that whereas we have between 15 and 65 days to > > > decide your fate, you have just 36 hours to inform us of your decision > > > to accept or not, BUT, you must inform us of your decision by phone > > > AND registered post. > > > Failure to do so in that time (no excuses) will not only mean that you > > > forfeit your free holiday, but you will be liable for the entire cost > > > of cancellation > > > > (I don't actually understand what precisely is meant by "entire cost > > > of cancellation", it might be the cost of a few phone calls, or bits > > > of admin, or the cost of accommodation, travel etc.) > > > > Enjoy the rest of your holiday. > > > ...and now you're just wasting my time....what are you trying to sell > > again ? > > Sell? nah, you've got that all wrong ... my friend.... I merely came > extending the gift of information and chance to chatter for anyone as > might wish to chomp on either. theres a duchess of yawk joke in here somehwere...
From: Frank Hucklenbroich on 25 May 2010 04:44 Am Sat, 22 May 2010 11:12:48 +0100 schrieb Andy Pandy: > Worst place we went to for this was Gran Canaria in the early 90's - > they were *everywhere*, on the beach, in the shopping centres, down > quiet streets, and ignoring them didn't work, they'd follow you down > the street. Apparently they got paid �50 for every couple they got > along to the presentations, regardless of whether they signed up! Yes, I remember that. They had those guys speaking many different languages, and at times I tried to fool them saying I didn't understand their language. When they asked where I come from I would say "Russki" or something like that, but in the end they came up with someone who actually spoke russian ;-) Regards, Frank
From: Surreyman on 25 May 2010 07:36
On 25 May, 09:44, Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroic...(a)aol.com> wrote: > Am Sat, 22 May 2010 11:12:48 +0100 schrieb Andy Pandy: > > > Worst place we went to for this was Gran Canaria in the early 90's - > > they were *everywhere*, on the beach, in the shopping centres, down > > quiet streets, and ignoring them didn't work, they'd follow you down > > the street. Apparently they got paid £50 for every couple they got > > along to the presentations, regardless of whether they signed up! > > Yes, I remember that. They had those guys speaking many different > languages, and at times I tried to fool them saying I didn't understand > their language. When they asked where I come from I would say "Russki" or > something like that, but in the end they came up with someone who actually > spoke russian ;-) > > Regards, > > Frank I use Welsh, Hasn't failed yet. |