From: Martin on
On 17/06/10 11:14, Giovanni Drogo wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, BP killed my turtle wrote:
>
>>> I am used to green asparagus here in Milan. The traditional way of
>>> eating them is with fried eggs and melted butter. The legend is that the
>>> milanese surprised Julius Caesar offering him such a dish.
>
>> not hard boiled ?!
>
> what ? asparagus or eggs ? asparagus are boiled, but eggs are fried, the
> idea is that one dips the asparagus inside the egg's yolk.

Belgians and probably others serve asparagus with a hard boiled egg.
From: Giovanni Drogo on
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Brian wrote:

> What is raw ham? Fresh as opposed to cured?

From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham

In Italy, ham is called prosciutto, and can be either cured (prosciutto
crudo) or cooked (prosciutto cotto).

"crudo" is "raw" (e.g. Parma, San Daniele etc.), as opposed to cooked.

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From: Tom P on
Martin wrote:
> On 17/06/10 11:12, Giovanni Drogo wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Tom P wrote:
>>
>>> We were wandering through the back streets of Rome one cold December
>>> night just after Christmas
>>> OK, I'll have a fettucini - how about this one, al fredo? Sounds ok.
>> Given for granted that this mythical "Alfredo" is something only
>> foreigners (particularly Americans) talk about, and is totally unknown
>> to traditional italian cooks ... the way you wrote it looks like a pun
>> in Italian.
>
> :o)
>
>> "Al freddo" (which a venetian may pronounce "al fredo") means "out in
>> the cold", and this sounds funny in a "cold December" :-)
>>
>> A similar pun occurred in early 1900 in Milan, when a Frenchman opened a
>> shirt shop "Chemiserie Alfred Lassalle". The milanese read it as "che
>> miseria lassall al frecc" (what a misery, leave him out in the cold) :-)
>
> The woman working in the Athlete's Foot shop in the Supermercato near
> Laben in Milan couldn't see anything funny about the name of the shop.
>

It's not just the Italians, there are Athletes Foot stores all over
the world - see http://www.theathletesfoot.com/map.html and
http://www.theathletesfoot.com/globallocations.html
All the same, I thought it was funny too the first time I saw one.
From: Tom P on
erilar wrote:
> In article <87s8oqFvb6U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> Tom P <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote:
>
>> erilar wrote:
>>> In article <87rnrcFn3bU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>> Tom P <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I never understood what the appeal was in
>>>> eating piles of gigantic white asparagus stalks.
>>> Not even with "raw ham" and drenched in butter?
>>>
>> Sure, that's pretty good, but I don't need a whole plate full every day.
>>
>> T.
>
> Oh, I didn't have it the same way every day, but that's my favorite.
>

I guess the ham helps to conceal the taste of the white asparagus.
T.
From: Martin on
On 17/06/10 12:50, Tom P wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>> On 17/06/10 11:12, Giovanni Drogo wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Tom P wrote:
>>>
>>>> We were wandering through the back streets of Rome one cold December
>>>> night just after Christmas
>>>> OK, I'll have a fettucini - how about this one, al fredo? Sounds ok.
>>> Given for granted that this mythical "Alfredo" is something only
>>> foreigners (particularly Americans) talk about, and is totally unknown
>>> to traditional italian cooks ... the way you wrote it looks like a pun
>>> in Italian.
>>
>> :o)
>>
>>> "Al freddo" (which a venetian may pronounce "al fredo") means "out in
>>> the cold", and this sounds funny in a "cold December" :-)
>>>
>>> A similar pun occurred in early 1900 in Milan, when a Frenchman opened a
>>> shirt shop "Chemiserie Alfred Lassalle". The milanese read it as "che
>>> miseria lassall al frecc" (what a misery, leave him out in the cold) :-)
>>
>> The woman working in the Athlete's Foot shop in the Supermercato near
>> Laben in Milan couldn't see anything funny about the name of the shop.
>>
>
> It's not just the Italians, there are Athletes Foot stores all over the
> world - see http://www.theathletesfoot.com/map.html and
> http://www.theathletesfoot.com/globallocations.html
> All the same, I thought it was funny too the first time I saw one.

The Italian woman was the only person I know who couldn't see the joke.
My kids, at the time both teenagers, weren't very amused at the idea of
wearing the Athlete's Foot T shirts I bought them