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From: tim.... on 14 Jun 2010 13:13 "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1jk38fi.1r5aco8yclyicN%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk... > tim.... <tims_new_home(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:1jk1m9u.13u9z94do5ia7N%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk... > [] >> > You can, but the ipad doesn't support flash, due to two large >> > corporations (Adobe and Apple) having a petty fight. Disable flash on >> > your browser and go to the bbc news website- the video and audio won't >> > work. Same goes for almost any media website. >> >> You don't need flash to read the BBC, only to play their annoying videos. > > Whether you use it or not, the web browsing experience for a lot of > people includes video and audio content. The ipad can't do that- hence > why it's hardly the 'best browsing experience' as apple's marketing > claims. OK I can accept this, but I was just asking about erilar's needs and she said that she didn't need videos. And even if she did, if they require flash and the iPad doesn't do flash, it's not going to work whether she tries to view them in a browser or via an app. For clarity here, I'm trying to learn about apps. I trying to understand why people might need to download (and sometimes pay for) an app to do something that the native machine can already do. tim
From: d4g4h4 on 14 Jun 2010 13:31 tim.... <tims_new_home(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1jk38fi.1r5aco8yclyicN%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk... > > tim.... <tims_new_home(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > >> news:1jk1m9u.13u9z94do5ia7N%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk... > > [] > >> > You can, but the ipad doesn't support flash, due to two large > >> > corporations (Adobe and Apple) having a petty fight. Disable flash on > >> > your browser and go to the bbc news website- the video and audio won't > >> > work. Same goes for almost any media website. > >> > >> You don't need flash to read the BBC, only to play their annoying videos. > > > > Whether you use it or not, the web browsing experience for a lot of > > people includes video and audio content. The ipad can't do that- hence > > why it's hardly the 'best browsing experience' as apple's marketing > > claims. > > OK I can accept this, but I was just asking about erilar's needs and she > said that she didn't need videos. > > And even if she did, if they require flash and the iPad doesn't do flash, > it's not going to work whether she tries to view them in a browser or via an > app. > > For clarity here, I'm trying to learn about apps. I trying to understand > why people might need to download (and sometimes pay for) an app to do > something that the native machine can already do. Short cuts and ease of use. Erilar already mentioned the offline capacity, but I think you're misunderstanding that, or she's talking about something else. The BBC newsreader app downloads a lot of news items with limited pictures, so you can then read them offline. Useful if you're travelling and don't have a 3g connection, etc. On the ipod, I generally use apps for things the browser can't do. Listening to radio for example... -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
From: d4g4h4 on 14 Jun 2010 13:57 tim.... <tims_new_home(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "erilar" <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message > news:drache-0F6D7D.17005113062010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.e > xample.com... > In article <87k9jsFo8hU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "tim...." <tims_new_home(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> why do you need an app? > > > > It's an iPad. > > How is that an answer? > > Surely it has an internet browser (the website shows it with one) > > http://images.apple.com/uk/ipad/home/images/hero_20100127.png And of course if you tap on the multimedia content on that site? The computer says no. There's a funny ipad ad at the bus stop near here with someone's finger hovering over the 'multimedia' content link on the guardian site. :) -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
From: Tom P on 14 Jun 2010 16:52 EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: > > > Brian wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:01:02 +0100, Donwill >> <Donwill.seesig(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >> >>> It's been taken over and ruined by American Nutters with bees in >>> their bonnets. >>> Don >> >> How does that prevent others from posting travel topics? > > It doesn't, entirely - but it becomes very tedious to have to scroll to > "Next unread message", then "Mark thread read" for all the irritating > cross-posts, and my browser doesn't offer an option to simply kill-file > all the off-topic newsgroups My Mozilla killfile works fine. Last time I checked the logfile was full of PJOD... I hear there is something called greasemonkey out there, don't know the details. T.
From: Martin on 14 Jun 2010 16:53
On 14/06/10 19:05, tim.... wrote: > "Martin" <martin(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:hv50r9$pmg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On 14/06/10 12:19, tim.... wrote: >>> "Martin" <martin(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:hv4v5s$3s7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> On 14/06/10 10:48, tim.... wrote: >>>>> "erilar" <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:drache-0F6D7D.17005113062010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.example.com... >>>>>> In article <87k9jsFo8hU1(a)mid.individual.net>, >>>>>> "tim...." <tims_new_home(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> why do you need an app? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's an iPad. >>>>> >>>>> How is that an answer? >>>>> >>>>> Surely it has an internet browser (the website shows it with one) >>>>> >>>>> http://images.apple.com/uk/ipad/home/images/hero_20100127.png >>>> >>>> from what Erilar has said the browser can't cope with the BBC website. >>> >>> But apart from the videos, it's a simple html and jpeg based site, there >>> is >>> nothing tricky about it at all. >> >> Except it blocks access if it thinks you don't have the applications >> installed that it needs. > > not on my PC it doesn't. because you already have installed what iPlayer is looking for.. |