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From: Lennart Petersen on 8 Oct 2007 15:17
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
> Carole Allen wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:27:56 -0400, Cathy L <lederer123(a)optonline.net>
>> We >talked to five men that were guests there. Four were from Ohio
>> and one
>>>from Switzerland. They were doing extensive genealogy research. They
>>>showed us over a hundred pages of family tree information. They
>>>offered us their appointment at the courthouse in Bamberg for the next
>>>day. They weren't going to use it.
>> I hope you realize all those records at the courthouse wouldn't have
>> been in English? Amateur genealogists, gotta love 'em - haven't a
>> clue how to properly research or document, or interpret the validity
>> of sources.
> Someone told me the Mormons have an extensive facility for researching
> one's geneaology. (Apparently they believe you can pray your ancestors
> into heaven, too - if you know who they were.) I've never cared enough to
> bother, but I think the services are available to anyone, although I've no
> idea how much is involved in fees. (I'm sure they don't do it for
They do provide a limited service free of charge but once you want a more
comprehensive service you must pay a monthly fee for access.
From: Pat on 8 Oct 2007 10:05
>>Lord knows Cathy posts enough stuff that make me cringe as to her
>>without saying she's arrogant, etc.
>>And Cathy, while you're at it, do some research into that Greek dance and
>>find out why the men wear those costumes. Educate yourself.
>>Pat in TX
> I really don't understand why you wouldn't block my posts. If what I
> say makes you "cringe with my ignorance".
What you write makes me cringe because you are fulfilling the preconceived
ideas of Europeans that Americans who travel abroad as ignorant and
arrogant. I take it back, though, you, personally, ARE arrogant. People,
please do not believe the majority of Americans are like Cathy L. She has
that peculiar New York belief that it is the center of the earth. Keep that
in mind when you read her uneducated and simplistic posts. She is not
anywhere near being a representative of the American public.
> Sorry, but watching men dancing, holding hands and wearing toutous
> makes me snicker.
This only shows the extent of your backwardness, Cathy. You are extremely
uneducated and probably shouldn't be allowed out of your house without a
manners guide. You are giving offense to a proud people who have not done
anything to deserve such rude comments. And, you probably do not know to
which proud people I am referring.
> As they say, Pat, you really need to "get a life".
I cannot take your advice, as I consider the source. First, you need to grow
up before you start giving advice.
Pat in TX
From: d4g4h4 on 8 Oct 2007 19:18
Pat <Pat(a)starrynight.com> wrote:
> What you write makes me cringe because you are fulfilling the preconceived
> ideas of Europeans that Americans who travel abroad as ignorant and
That's the point- the notions are preconceived. Some of the stupidest
stuff I've read in this group over the years has been silly comments
about Americans with little basis in fact.
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"
From: Carole Allen on 8 Oct 2007 20:14
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:56:14 -0400, Cathy L <lederer123(a)optonline.net>
>The men showed us a document that they had obtained from one of the
>genealogy companies. It was about ten pages of Latin that was used in
>the German church records. They showed us how a lot of the records had
>the same pattern of phrases too.
Many of those "genealogy companies" are rip-offs.
From: Carole Allen on 8 Oct 2007 20:22
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:27:21 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
>Someone told me the Mormons have an extensive facility for
>researching one's geneaology. (Apparently they believe you
>can pray your ancestors into heaven, too - if you know who
>they were.) I've never cared enough to bother, but I think
>the services are available to anyone, although I've no idea
>how much is involved in fees. (I'm sure they don't do it
They have microfilms of many types of records - municipal records
church records, land deeds (many original source records), etc., etc.,
both US and around the world. You can order a roll of microfilm for
only a few dollars then go into one of their reading rooms (where
there are microfilm readers) and plow through the films. You do your
own research; it is time-consuming hard work. They have Croatian
parish records (birth, death, marraige) back to the 1700s which I have
been reading for several years. I have been able to reconstruct
almost entire villages, and certainly many related family groups from
Church records (in both Latin and Croatian). (You should see the
impact of the Spanish Flu sweeping through families 1917-1919). Their
catalog is online now, so you can search it before you head out to
order the films from your local center. Monetary cost is nominal;
cost of your research time is another thing altogether.