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From: Doesn't Frequently Mop on 11 Oct 2007 17:13 Make credence recognised that on Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:36:47 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> has scripted: >On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:12:40 +0200, Doesn't Frequently Mop ><deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: >>We'll have to beg to differ on that. Bigoted humour is a symptom in my >>books, not a problem. > >That's what everyone who tells bigoted stories says... > >"Just kidding" And that's just what self righteous whites have told me in the past, essentially accusing me of being racist, even when my girlfriend and best friend were dark skinned. >:o[ Forgive me if I prefer to laugh it all off at anyone's expense. I've had to deal with this too many times to not extract a lighter side from it. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Hatunen on 11 Oct 2007 17:35 On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:13:42 +0200, Doesn't Frequently Mop <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: >Make credence recognised that on Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:36:47 -0700, >Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> has scripted: > >>On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:12:40 +0200, Doesn't Frequently Mop >><deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > >>>We'll have to beg to differ on that. Bigoted humour is a symptom in my >>>books, not a problem. >> >>That's what everyone who tells bigoted stories says... >> >>"Just kidding" > >And that's just what self righteous whites have told me in the past, >essentially accusing me of being racist, even when my girlfriend and >best friend were dark skinned. >:o[ There is a peculiar streak in past racis. It was not uncommon for a white pesrson to slam the people of another race as being stupic lazy and shiftless. When someone points out that he knows person A quite well, and although he is in that racial category, he is obviously earnest and hard-working. The bigot will agree, but consider it a special case. But if you can't see the harm done by makign bigoted comments and jokes in public, far be it from me to interrupt your cognitive dissonance. >Forgive me if I prefer to laugh it all off at anyone's expense. I've >had to deal with this too many times to not extract a lighter side >from it. That's fine. But the point here is whether you are keeping it to yourself. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Geoff Miller on 11 Oct 2007 18:15 Doesn't Frequently Mop <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> writes: > I've never known a humorous type of prejudice that's caused any net > harm. But it can often generate some rather entertaining net.humor. I used to have a lot of fun winding people up in soc.culture.- asian.american back in the mid-Nineties, when the "political correctness" thing was at its peak and a lot of people believed they had some natural right not to be offended. It was a lot of fun disabusing them of that notion. Geoff -- "I saw a photo on a colleague's desk. I asked, 'Was that taken on University Avenue?' He said, 'Uh, no, it was taken in Bombay.'" -- Elaine Richards
From: Geoff Miller on 11 Oct 2007 19:06 Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> writes: > There is a peculiar streak in past racis. It was not uncommon for > a white pesrson to slam the people of another race as being stupic > lazy and shiftless. Do you not believe that people of other races say similar things about white people? You seem to have internalized the politically correct idea that only white people can be bigots. Geoff -- "I saw a photo on a colleague's desk. I asked, 'Was that taken on University Avenue?' He said, 'Uh, no, it was taken in Bombay.'" -- Elaine Richards
From: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) on 11 Oct 2007 19:58
Geoff Miller wrote: > William Black <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> writes: > > >>You don't understand. > > >>We don't have a problem. > > >>You do... > > > > Yeah, we have a problem, all right. That's how we got to be > the most culturally, economically and militarily influential > nation in the history of the planet, Hmmmm.... 1) We may have improved somewhat since the early twentieth century, but to the rest of the world (and to many of our own citizens) the U.S. is still a nation of comparative cultural barbarians! 2) If by "economically" influential, you mean outsourcing jobs to third world countries and exporting such home grown products as McDonald's and Starbucks, you may be right, but it's certainly nothing to BRAG about! 3) I think Nazi Germany still holds the record there - and if we ccontinue in the vein the present administration has started, we may well end up the same way, too. (Even many of our own citizens regard Bush, Cheney, et al, as war criminals!) > and why half the rest of > the world is all but breaking down the figurative doors in > their determination to come here. Few from truly civilized countries - just from those where the labor situation is even grimmer than ours is fast becoming! |