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From: erilar on 17 Apr 2010 16:10
In article <hqcvot12l79(a)news4.newsguy.com>,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> JohnT wrote:
> > "Hatunen" <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:h63fs5lebec306s19ab0rv5gnsqut7rkq6(a)4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:29:16 -0500, erilar
> >> <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >>> Is that going to affect travel to Germany in the immediate future?
> >> Not if you take take the train.
> > I think that she lives somewhere remote (Minnesota or Wisconsin?) and
> > train services from there to Berlin are not all that frequent.
> True enough in terms of frequency, but I suspect Minnesotans and
> Wisconsonians might take exception to that "somewhere remote"! :-)
When it comes to trains, this IS remote 8-) There's an Amtrak station
a good hundred miles south of here and one over in the Twin
Cities(Minneapolis/St. Paul) that might be closer but harder to find.
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
From: S Viemeister on 17 Apr 2010 16:33
On 4/17/2010 2:13 PM, Hatunen wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:14:25 +0200, Martin<me(a)address.invalid>
>> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:27:31 +0200, Wolfgang Schwanke<see(a)sig.nature> wrote:
>>> wrote in news:hq81gq04tv(a)news6.newsguy.com:
>>>> Interesting that the news story mentions the effects of an
>>>> 1821 eruption lasting for two years - that was before jet aircraft. How
>>>> might a similar situation affect worldwide air travel, now?
>>> That was probably about the climatic effect. It's unlikely that
>>> aviation will be affected longer than a couple of days.
>> It is already longer than a couple of days :o)
> Apparently, the same volcano erupted for two years in 1821...
I'm trying not to think about that - I'm scheduled to fly into Heathrow
in a little over a week.
From: Jean O'Boyle on 17 Apr 2010 16:58
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> Jean O'Boyle wrote:
>> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> Jean O'Boyle wrote:
>>>> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> Wow! I realize the U.S. (especially the state of Arizona) is
>>>>> decidedly insular, but you'd think something with that much
>>>>> international impact > would at least have been MENTIONED on
>>>>> Wednesday's "Nightly News"!!! We got plenty of rehashing of political
>>>>> issues and the state's "budget crisis", along with local crime news.
>>>>> Nary a WORD about Icelandic volcanoes! Interesting that the news
>>>>> story mentions the effects of an 1821 eruption lasting for two years -
>>>>> that was before jet aircraft. How might a similar situation affect
>>>>> worldwide air travel, now?
>>>> You apparently have not been watching the right newcasts...
>>> And you obviously do not live in Arizona! There was SOME coverage today
>>> on MSNBC (including an interview with a geologist), but most of what I
>>> could find on CNN and FOX and other cable sources were their syndicated
>>> talking heads with commentary on whatever they comment about. (Whatever
>>> happened to the cable news channels that broadcast ONLY news - "in
>>> depth", but NEWS, not comment?)
>> No, I don't reside in Arizona, but if you had watched Fox News as you
>> say, you would have known that they broke into their regular programming
>> with a news alert regarding the volcano erupting in Iceland. Shepard
>> Smith during his evening news hour on Fox, covers the world news quite
>> well including what is happening to the poor people in Mongolia. I learn
>> much more about what is happening in the world by listening to him than
>> to any other news programs. He reports the news....does not try to
>> interpret it as if the viewers did not have brains to understand it
> Well, I only refer to FOX news as a last resort - I consider their
> political emphasis a disgrace to an allegedly "free" country, so avoid FOX
> in the interest of my blood pressure. I only looked there when
> channel-surfing for news of the volcano, and NONE of the channels
> available here had any news about the eruption when it happened. (I speak
> of Wednesday, you evidently were monitoring things on Thursday - evidently
> you have more time to watch TV than I do.)
That's too bad or else you would know more about what is happening world
wide than you do.
If anyone is biased it's CBS, NBC and ABC. They put a spin on everything
they report. Maybe that is why their ratings have gone down so much while
FOX's have gone up...people are starting to think for themselves and are
thirsty for the unvarnished truth...Even CNN is waking up and reporting some
of the news as it really is. BBC is good about reporting world news, too.
If watching an hour or two a day of TV is having more time to watch than you
do, then pray tell, what keeps you so busy? I just came off my 51st cruise
in March, have a wonderful family of five, plus grandchildren and great
grandchildren to occupy my time, plus planning two more cruises
(Mediterranean and Caribbean) and a land trip....As always, you have to put
a critical "barb" in your posts....sad.
--Jean<---happy in Texas!
From: Hatunen on 17 Apr 2010 17:02
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:06:18 -0700,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>Well, I only refer to FOX news as a last resort - I consider their
>political emphasis a disgrace to an allegedly "free" country, so avoid
>FOX in the interest of my blood pressure. I only looked there when
>channel-surfing for news of the volcano, and NONE of the channels
>available here had any news about the eruption when it happened. (I
>speak of Wednesday, you evidently were monitoring things on Thursday -
>evidently you have more time to watch TV than I do.)
You might need to explain what you mean by "when it happened".
When the eruption began it was pretty much a local news item
which made international news only because it was erupting under
a glacier and might cause local flooding. It first made the news
as more of a novelty than anything else.
It wasn't until later that it began the more typical ash-spewing
erution and became major news. Then it bcame even more major when
it was realized how much of Europe would be rather adversely
I recall seeing minor news items about it during that first
phase, but once air traffic was being affected the story grew.
************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
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From: Poetic Justice on 17 Apr 2010 17:04
>Much as I want my plane to take off
>Tuesday, I also want it to land the next
>morning rather than diving into the ocean.
Don't be such a pessimist!
I'm certain the pilot would GLIDE** it into the ocean:-).
Good Luck on Tuesday, hopefully this will blow-over:) by then.
**The 'Glimley (sp?) Glider' was a 767 that lost both engines (no fuel)
and glided to and safely landed on an abandoned airstrip in Canada.
And a few years ago I believe a smaller jet (757?) ran-out of fuel over
the Alantic and glided to the Azores(?) and safely landed.
...And Paradise Was Lost...like teardrops in the rain...