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From: d4g4h4 on 15 Apr 2010 18:49 Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:43:55 -0700, > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > >William Black wrote: > >> erilar wrote: > >>> Is that going to affect travel to Germany in the immediate future? > >>> > >> > >> They're not sure, but they expect that all civil flying over all of > >> Northern Europe will be affected for at least the next two days > >> > >> Currently all planes have been grounded in the UK, Ireland, the > >> Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland, France is > >> about to ground everything. > >> > >> Details at: > >> > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8623534.stm > >> . > >Wow! I realize the U.S. (especially the state of Arizona) is decidedly > >insular, but you'd think something with that much international impact > >would at least have been MENTIONED on Wednesday's "Nightly News"!!! > > NBC Nightly News mentioned the volcano last (Wednesday) evening, > and mentioned some cancelled flights, but I don't believe the > full extent became known until after that newscast. I got back to the UK last night around 6pm, and it wasn't until the morning news today (April 15) that it was on the news. It was pretty unexpected from what I gather... -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
From: d4g4h4 on 15 Apr 2010 18:50 Mark Brader <msb(a)vex.net> wrote: > >> Is that going to affect travel to Germany in the immediate future? > > > > Not if you take take the train. > > Oh yeah? How many additional people are going to be dumped onto the > railway system? Eurostar, for example, is now saying that people without tickets should stay way... -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
From: Jean O'Boyle on 16 Apr 2010 00:25 "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:hq81gq04tv(a)news6.newsguy.com... > > > William Black wrote: >> erilar wrote: >>> Is that going to affect travel to Germany in the immediate future? >>> >> >> They're not sure, but they expect that all civil flying over all of >> Northern Europe will be affected for at least the next two days >> >> Currently all planes have been grounded in the UK, Ireland, the >> Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland, France is >> about to ground everything. >> >> Details at: >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8623534.stm >> . > Wow! I realize the U.S. (especially the state of Arizona) is decidedly > insular, but you'd think something with that much international impact > > would at least have been MENTIONED on Wednesday's "Nightly News"!!! We > got plenty of rehashing of political issues and the state's "budget > crisis", along with local crime news. Nary a WORD about Icelandic > volcanoes! Interesting that the news story mentions the effects of an > 1821 eruption lasting for two years - that was before jet aircraft. How > might a similar situation affect worldwide air travel, now? You apparently have not been watching the right newcasts...I heard several times yesterday about the isolated volcano erruption in Iceland and today it was repeated numerous times and the effect of it air travel over the North Atlantic between US and Europe. It even showed rows of planes standing at Heathrow Airport not being able to fly due to the volcanic ash. They told of the danger of the ash getting into the jet engines and the heat crystallizing it into glass particles that would be extremely harmful to the engines.You must broaden your sources of news, Evelyn...it surely was there. You might try listening to more than one newscast. Maybe then you would be less critical of the USA. Several U.S. flights bound for including those from Heathrow, Chicago, Denver, Las Vegas and New York, had to return to their departure cities or land elsewhere when London airports were closed. Canadian airlines also canceled some Europe-bound flights. Britain's air traffic service said early Friday it was extending a ban on most air traffic until 7 p.m. local time on Friday. Authorities in Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Belgium also closed their air space. France shut down 24 airports, including the main hub of Charles de Gaulle in Paris, Germany's Berlin and Hamburg were shut Thursday evening, and several flights out of the U.S. had to double back...so you see, it was very well covered. --Jean
From: Mxsmanic on 16 Apr 2010 00:57 Hatunen writes: > ... I reckon very small particles might pass through a > jet engine OK. Alas, no. First, the particles are extremely abrasive, irrespective of their small size. Second, they often melt at temperatures below those in jet engine cores, and then plug or block or hinder the operation of the engine, causing it to stop. Volcanic ash is extremely dangerous stuff for aircraft (and for a lot of other things, including people).
From: Mxsmanic on 16 Apr 2010 00:58
Hatunen writes: > But the train is still a good idea if the ash stays. Trains are a good idea even after the ash leaves. |