From: Blue on
PJ O'Donovan wrote:
> WHY FRANCE IS THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
>
> Charles Martel

Do we have to hate him now because he was anti-islamic ?
From: FACE on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:44:04 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, Blue
<blue(a)there.com>, wrote

>PJ O'Donovan wrote:
>> WHY FRANCE IS THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
>>
>> Charles Martel
>
>Do we have to hate him now because he was anti-islamic ?

I read the original piece, as posted. It is a third rate hit piece.
Jonah Goldberg can put down France with much more panache. :-)

I understand that "Martel" means the "the hammer" and that he was also
known as "the pope's general'. He routed the Saracens at Tours, which was
a good thing and lasted quite a few centuries. However, under islamic
jurisprudence, any infidel land that has been invaded in jihad becomes a
part of islam land even if the invasion was unsuccessful and the incursion
into Tours meets that criteria-- and as such does not bode well for us
infidels............

I read that on the way to Tours, The Hammer had time to stop over at a
village and oversee the burning of 45 witches. That was the eighth
century when -- as I last heard a BBC presenter put the old phrase --
life was nasty, brutish and mercifully short.

FACE
From: Earl Evleth on
On 2/08/10 15:03, in article 7qfd56dfqii5tokgeoamem31os66jj3foo(a)4ax.com,
"FACE" <AFaceInTheCrowd(a)today.net> wrote:

> I read that on the way to Tours, The Hammer had time to stop over at a
> village and oversee the burning of 45 witches. That was the eighth
> century when -- as I last heard a BBC presenter put the old phrase --
> life was nasty, brutish and mercifully short.

I don't remember Martel mentioned in the press recently!

From: Erilar on
.. That was the eighth
>> century when -- as I last heard a BBC presenter put the old phrase
> > --
>> life was nasty, brutish and mercifully short.
>
That claim has been made by those who know nothing about them for the
entire Middle Ages. It demonstrates historical myopia.


--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
From: High Miles on
On 8/2/2010 7:44 AM, Blue wrote:
> PJ O'Donovan wrote:
>> WHY FRANCE IS THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
>>
>> Charles Martel
>
> Do we have to hate him now because he was anti-islamic ?

Hate anyone who is an ignorant
Crossposter...........................................................