From: Dan Stephenson on
On 2008-04-11 12:39:18 -0500, dgs <dgs1300(a)gee-mail.com> said:

> Dave Frightens Me wrote:
>
>> Istanbul has enough to offer you for a week,
>> but I personally get sick of touring a city after a few days and want to
>> chill out somewhere. Goreme is ideal for this because it's chilled out and
>> really, really, really beautiful.
>
> What do you (or others in rte) think of going to Istanbul in late
> December? I know that it can get rather cool, but it's a possibility
> for a holiday trip this year.

Well a lot of Istanbul is seen through a massive amount of urban
hiking. That might keep you warmed up.

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From: a.spencer3 on

"Dan Stephenson" <stephedanospam(a)mac.com> wrote in message
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> On 2008-04-09 11:20:12 -0500, "tim \(not at home\)"
> <tims_new_home(a)yahoo.co.uk> said:
>
> > HI,
> >
> > I'm (possibly) going to be spending a week in Istanbul with a friend
> > and then have a week on my own to explore.
> >
> > I was thinking of catching the train to Ankara (and back). Is there
> > enough to do in/around Ankara for a week or should I plan on going
> > somewhere else?
> >
> > In addition to the things in the centre, are there places that are a
> > day trip from Istanbul/Ankara that are 'must do' trips.
> >
> > Interests: Historic sites of any era, scenic locations.
> >
> > Disinterests: Art museums, beach activities, nightlife.
> >
> > And: will my GSM phone work?, do they use Euro plugs?, and can I pay
> > for things with Euro (only joking!)
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > tim
>
> Hi Tim, I spent a couple of weeks in Istanbul and had plenty to do.
> Based on your interests, you might spend the second week in Istanbul!
>
> There is a (long) bus across down the Gallipoli penninsula and across
> the Dardenelles to Canacale. This is the nearest town the ruins of
> Troy. Troy is way cool. The bus leaves from the massive 'otogar'
> outside Istanbul. There are a billion storefronts for each
> destination. There is but one for Canacale. Which is not how it's
> spelled but I'm lazy right now. So. So once you are there, you ought
> to just find a place for the night and visit Troy the next morning to
> give yourself plenty of time. I got to the site through a dolmus,
> which is a private minibus that ferry people around. The hotel clerk
> told me where to find it. It dropped me off, I visited all day, and
> waited on the corner until a dolmus came by to take me back to
> Canacale. Several went by before my "Canacale??" was answered in the
> affirmative. Then I took a bus back to Istanbul and got back pretty
> late at night. I would recommend having a hotel reservation in advance.
>
> Here is my Istanbul page, it might give you some ideas:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda/Istanbul2007/Menu282.html
>
> --
> Dan Stephenson
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Or, depending on your inclinations, there are very simple day coach trips
from Istanbul to Dardanelles/Troy, maybe returning via the old Ottoman
capital of Bursa.

Far easier in this instance than DIY.

Surreyman


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> depending on your inclinations, there are very simple day coach trips
> from Istanbul to Dardanelles/Troy, maybe returning via the old Ottoman
> capital of Bursa.

That would be a hell of a long day without much time to get out
and see anything.

Bursa has a small collection of very fine mediaeval architecture
surrounded by a vast urban sprawl nearly the size of Birmingham,
choking in car fumes. It's well worth going up the "teleferik"
(cable car) which goes a long way up the nearby mountain, the
Uludag, which is the highest montain in western Turkey.. At the
top you can transfer to the "telesiyej", tiny two-person cable
cars or open ski-lift seats, which can take you along the side
of the mountain for a bit. From there you often can't see Bursa
at all, just a sheet of blue haze. It's worth spending a night
in Bursa to go up there.

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From: a.spencer3 on

"Jack Campin - bogus address" <bogus(a)purr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > depending on your inclinations, there are very simple day coach trips
> > from Istanbul to Dardanelles/Troy, maybe returning via the old Ottoman
> > capital of Bursa.
>
> That would be a hell of a long day without much time to get out
> and see anything.
>
> Bursa has a small collection of very fine mediaeval architecture
> surrounded by a vast urban sprawl nearly the size of Birmingham,
> choking in car fumes. It's well worth going up the "teleferik"
> (cable car) which goes a long way up the nearby mountain, the
> Uludag, which is the highest montain in western Turkey.. At the
> top you can transfer to the "telesiyej", tiny two-person cable
> cars or open ski-lift seats, which can take you along the side
> of the mountain for a bit. From there you often can't see Bursa
> at all, just a sheet of blue haze. It's worth spending a night
> in Bursa to go up there.
>
I was referring to the 'old city' and early mausoleum/mosque area which is
very pleasant.
On our first trip to Turkey, many moons ago, we took just this trip out of
Istanbul as an introduction.
It showed us the Dardanelles, Troy and Bursa well within normal coach day
parameters, certainly far more easily than public transport.
As I said "depending on your inclinations".
We've since, of course, spent far more time around Troy in particular in DIY
mode.

Surreyman


From: Dan Stephenson on
On 2008-04-18 04:57:24 -0500, "a.spencer3" <a.spencer3(a)ntlworld.com> said:

> Or, depending on your inclinations, there are very simple day coach trips
> from Istanbul to Dardanelles/Troy, maybe returning via the old Ottoman
> capital of Bursa.
>
> Far easier in this instance than DIY.
>
> Surreyman

You're absolutely right in terms of ease. I went the DIY route because
I could get to the site earlier and leave later.

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http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda

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