From: Mizter T on
"Two women were stopped from boarding a plane at Manchester Airport
after refusing to undergo a full body scan."
Full story - <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8547416.stm>

Anyone here been through one of these body scanners yet?
From: Roland Perry on
In message
<075366d8-faaa-4aaf-8cc4-24b53e83f12b(a)m37g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, at
15:49:06 on Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Mizter T <mizter.t(a)gmail.com> remarked:
>"Two women were stopped from boarding a plane at Manchester Airport
>after refusing to undergo a full body scan."
>Full story - <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8547416.stm>
>
>Anyone here been through one of these body scanners yet?

I've seen them many times, because one was installed at Schiphol. But I
haven't been through it, and it's gone now. There was also one briefly
at Luton, and I thought I'd have a go - but they would only let people
*they* had selected through.
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Roland Perry
From: Colum Mylod on
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:04:10 +0000, Roland Perry <roland(a)perry.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message
><075366d8-faaa-4aaf-8cc4-24b53e83f12b(a)m37g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, at
>15:49:06 on Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Mizter T <mizter.t(a)gmail.com> remarked:
....
>>Anyone here been through one of these body scanners yet?
>
>I've seen them many times, because one was installed at Schiphol. But I
>haven't been through it, and it's gone now...

I've been through them at Schiphol - they're lurking in the basement
gate D06, the nice one that uses buses to dinky planes. 2 scanners in
place, and they're horrible, slow, break down often leaving one in
operation every Friday I've been through (mechanic banging away at the
other one).

Spl is not geared up for these. The x-ray lead-in and lead-out trays
are stubs, bags etc pile up on them and the staff have become grumpy.
If you leave a passport in your shirt pocket, it shows up as a yellow
splodge against your grey silhouette - go back to x-ray and dump it,
return to be re-scanned.

When you step out the other side, you stand on a spot until the scan
comes back ok or not - remote user gawks at your scan. Horrible, slow,
big queue builds up behind it, whole thing takes maybe 30-60secs per
person. And doesn't catch explosive jocks. The vendors are laughing
all the way to the bank, minus deposits in distant bank accounts I'm
guessing, because these are <JStraw>not fit for purpose</political
git>

My opinion, and the general opinion of a Fokker 70's worth of fellow
victims!

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From: Roland Perry on
In message <6bruo5lr3ktjuquj5v42kiie1ufbgeo4tp(a)4ax.com>, at 08:26:54 on
Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Colum Mylod <cmylod(a)bigfoot.comREMOVE> remarked:

>>>Anyone here been through one of these body scanners yet?
>>
>>I've seen them many times, because one was installed at Schiphol. But I
>>haven't been through it, and it's gone now...
>
>I've been through them at Schiphol - they're lurking in the basement
>gate D06, the nice one that uses buses to dinky planes.

I've not been down there recently Small planes to non-Schengen, iirc). I
wonder if they were moved to D from their original position by the H
gates?

>2 scanners in place, and they're horrible, slow, break down often
>leaving one in operation every Friday I've been through (mechanic
>banging away at the other one).

Is there an option to go through a conventional arch?

>Spl is not geared up for these. The x-ray lead-in and lead-out trays
>are stubs, bags etc pile up on them and the staff have become grumpy.
>If you leave a passport in your shirt pocket, it shows up as a yellow
>splodge against your grey silhouette - go back to x-ray and dump it,
>return to be re-scanned.

Hmm, I thought the recommended fallback was a full pat-down, rather than
discarding *suspicious* items and trying again.

>When you step out the other side, you stand on a spot until the scan
>comes back ok or not - remote user gawks at your scan. Horrible, slow,
>big queue builds up behind it, whole thing takes maybe 30-60secs per
>person.

One justification is that they are faster - I've even seen claims that
you don't need to empty pockets, because they can see what the offending
(and innocent) item is (but see above).

--
Roland Perry
From: Mizter T on

On Mar 4, 8:26 am, Colum Mylod <cmy...(a)bigfoot.comREMOVE> wrote:
> [snip]
> When you step out the other side, you stand on a spot until the scan
> comes back ok or not - remote user gawks at your scan. Horrible, slow,
> big queue builds up behind it, whole thing takes maybe 30-60secs per
> person. And doesn't catch explosive jocks. The vendors are laughing
> all the way to the bank, minus deposits in distant bank accounts I'm
> guessing, because these are <JStraw>not fit for purpose</political
> git>
>

I think it was actually 'Dr' John Reid who appropriated that phrase
(seemingly from the Sale of Goods Act) and used it to describe
elements of the immigration operations at the Home Office.

Thanks for your other comments. Doesn't sound particularly promising
for the future.