From: Mizter T on 3 Mar 2010 18:49 "Two women were stopped from boarding a plane at Manchester Airport after refusing to undergo a full body scan." Full story - <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8547416.stm> Anyone here been through one of these body scanners yet?
From: Roland Perry on 4 Mar 2010 02:04 In message <075366d8-faaa-4aaf-8cc4-24b53e83f12b(a)m37g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, at 15:49:06 on Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Mizter T <mizter.t(a)gmail.com> remarked: >"Two women were stopped from boarding a plane at Manchester Airport >after refusing to undergo a full body scan." >Full story - <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8547416.stm> > >Anyone here been through one of these body scanners yet? I've seen them many times, because one was installed at Schiphol. But I haven't been through it, and it's gone now. There was also one briefly at Luton, and I thought I'd have a go - but they would only let people *they* had selected through. -- Roland Perry
From: Colum Mylod on 4 Mar 2010 03:26 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:04:10 +0000, Roland Perry <roland(a)perry.co.uk> wrote: >In message ><075366d8-faaa-4aaf-8cc4-24b53e83f12b(a)m37g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, at >15:49:06 on Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Mizter T <mizter.t(a)gmail.com> remarked: .... >>Anyone here been through one of these body scanners yet? > >I've seen them many times, because one was installed at Schiphol. But I >haven't been through it, and it's gone now... I've been through them at Schiphol - they're lurking in the basement gate D06, the nice one that uses buses to dinky planes. 2 scanners in place, and they're horrible, slow, break down often leaving one in operation every Friday I've been through (mechanic banging away at the other one). Spl is not geared up for these. The x-ray lead-in and lead-out trays are stubs, bags etc pile up on them and the staff have become grumpy. If you leave a passport in your shirt pocket, it shows up as a yellow splodge against your grey silhouette - go back to x-ray and dump it, return to be re-scanned. When you step out the other side, you stand on a spot until the scan comes back ok or not - remote user gawks at your scan. Horrible, slow, big queue builds up behind it, whole thing takes maybe 30-60secs per person. And doesn't catch explosive jocks. The vendors are laughing all the way to the bank, minus deposits in distant bank accounts I'm guessing, because these are <JStraw>not fit for purpose</political git> My opinion, and the general opinion of a Fokker 70's worth of fellow victims! -- Old anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com appears broke So back to cmylod at bigfoot dot com
From: Roland Perry on 4 Mar 2010 04:28 In message <6bruo5lr3ktjuquj5v42kiie1ufbgeo4tp(a)4ax.com>, at 08:26:54 on Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Colum Mylod <cmylod(a)bigfoot.comREMOVE> remarked: >>>Anyone here been through one of these body scanners yet? >> >>I've seen them many times, because one was installed at Schiphol. But I >>haven't been through it, and it's gone now... > >I've been through them at Schiphol - they're lurking in the basement >gate D06, the nice one that uses buses to dinky planes. I've not been down there recently Small planes to non-Schengen, iirc). I wonder if they were moved to D from their original position by the H gates? >2 scanners in place, and they're horrible, slow, break down often >leaving one in operation every Friday I've been through (mechanic >banging away at the other one). Is there an option to go through a conventional arch? >Spl is not geared up for these. The x-ray lead-in and lead-out trays >are stubs, bags etc pile up on them and the staff have become grumpy. >If you leave a passport in your shirt pocket, it shows up as a yellow >splodge against your grey silhouette - go back to x-ray and dump it, >return to be re-scanned. Hmm, I thought the recommended fallback was a full pat-down, rather than discarding *suspicious* items and trying again. >When you step out the other side, you stand on a spot until the scan >comes back ok or not - remote user gawks at your scan. Horrible, slow, >big queue builds up behind it, whole thing takes maybe 30-60secs per >person. One justification is that they are faster - I've even seen claims that you don't need to empty pockets, because they can see what the offending (and innocent) item is (but see above). -- Roland Perry
From: Mizter T on 4 Mar 2010 06:25
On Mar 4, 8:26 am, Colum Mylod <cmy...(a)bigfoot.comREMOVE> wrote: > [snip] > When you step out the other side, you stand on a spot until the scan > comes back ok or not - remote user gawks at your scan. Horrible, slow, > big queue builds up behind it, whole thing takes maybe 30-60secs per > person. And doesn't catch explosive jocks. The vendors are laughing > all the way to the bank, minus deposits in distant bank accounts I'm > guessing, because these are <JStraw>not fit for purpose</political > git> > I think it was actually 'Dr' John Reid who appropriated that phrase (seemingly from the Sale of Goods Act) and used it to describe elements of the immigration operations at the Home Office. Thanks for your other comments. Doesn't sound particularly promising for the future. |