From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on 14 Jul 2006 23:01 Le 14/07/2006, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) a ?crit : > > Dave Frightens Me wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 05:18:58 GMT, carolea7(a)comcast.net (Carole Allen) >> wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:19:20 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>If one cannot discern that he is a non-native speaker or writer of >>>>English, then that is perfection in practical terms. >>>> >>> >>>How can you determine from what someone has written if that person >>>(someone otherwise unknown to you) is a non-native speaker or writer >>>of English? Stanislas' written English is of better quality than >>>some of the stuff I receive from highly educated Americans born and >>>bred in the States. >> >> >> He said something like "an hotel" a few days back. No mother tonuge >> speaker would make that mistake! > > Really? I've encountered quite a few Brits who do! (And not all from > classes who drop the "h" in speaking.) Besides, The indefinite article for > nouns beginning in "h" is tricky, because it depends upon whether the "h" is > pronounced in speech or not - it's "a hotel", but "an herbal remedy". It's more or less the same in French (you will write, and say, _l'h?tel_ but _la_ hi?rarchie) and, of course, when a word is common to the two languages, there's no general rule as to know whether it's pronounced or not ! hyperinflation in French -> mute H hyperinflation in English -> pronounced H -- remplacez "lesptt" par "laposte" pour me joindre substitute "laposte" for "lesptt" to reach me
From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on 14 Jul 2006 23:04 Le 14/07/2006, A Human Being a ?crit : > Mxsmanic wrote: >> Dave Frightens Me writes: >> >>> Happiness makes you vulnerable? >> >> Emotion makes you vulnerable, when you allow it to make your decisions >> for you. > > Which emotions are you talking about? There are two kinds- positive and > negative . You are too kind ! -- remplacez "lesptt" par "laposte" pour me joindre substitute "laposte" for "lesptt" to reach me
From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy on 15 Jul 2006 02:22 Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and > prestwich tesco 24h offy writes: > > > No it's not. > > Try it and see. I've done it. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: Dave Frightens Me on 15 Jul 2006 04:38 On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:45:54 +0200, stanislas.dekertanguy(a)lesptt.net (Stanislas de Kertanguy) wrote: >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > >> and presumably French too. > >The word was "hyperinflation", which has a mute initial H in French. >It's actually a common mistake for French native speakers. Is that by >any chance what you call "idiomatic English" ? (it's a genuine >question!) No, I don't think so. When someone says you have a good grasp of idiomatic English, it means you understand stuff like "get on with it" etc. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 15 Jul 2006 04:40
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 01:18:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Dave Frightens Me writes: > >> Well, unlike other languages, English is defined by usage. > >English is not "defined by usage," nor is any other language. Because you say so? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |