From: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) on


Stanislas de Kertanguy wrote:

> Le 15/07/2006, Mxsmanic a ?crit :
>
>> People follow the rules
>> of grammar because they cannot communicate with each other otherwise.
>
>
> /L'Hellade, c'est le rivage d?ploy? d'une mer g?niale d'o? s'?lanc?rent
> ? l'aurore le souffle de la connaissance et le magn?tisme de
> l'intelligence, gonflant d'?gale fertilit? des pouvoirs qui sembl?rent
> perp?tuels; c'est plus loin, une mappemonde d'?tranges montagnes: une
> cha?ne de volcans sourit ? la magie des h?ros, ? la tendresse serpentine
> des d?esses, guide le vol nuptial de l'homme, libre enfin de se savoir
> et de p?rir oiseau; c'est la r?ponse ? tout, m?me ? l'usure de la
> naissance, m?me aux d?tours du labyrinthe. Mais ce sol massif fait du
> diamant de la lumi?re et de la neige, cette terre imputrescible sous les
> pieds de son peuple victorieux de la mort mais mortel par ?vidence de
> puret?, une raison ?trang?re tente de ch?tier sa perfection, croit
> couvrir le balbutiement de ses ?pis.
>
> O Gr?ce, miroir et corps trois fois martyrs, t'imaginer c'est te
> r?tablir. Tes gu?risseurs sont dans ton peuple et ta sant? est dans ton
> droit. *Ton sang incalculable, je l'appelle, le seul vivant pour qui la
> libert? a cess? d'?tre maladive, qui me brise la bouche, lui du silence,
> et moi du cri*.
>
>
> Ren? Char/
>
> The last sentence of this poem has a very twisted grammar and syntax. It
> is obviously incorrect by French rules. Yet it sends thrills through my
> eyes when I read it. Isn't that _communication_ ?
>

Even to my inadequate comprehension, the entire quotation is
beautiful! French truly is a beautiful language - I can
understand why so many francophones tend to resent the rise
of English as "the" international language! (There was a
time, not so very long ago, when one could travel all over
Europe and be understood if one spoke French.)

From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy on
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

> David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th'
> barn and
> prestwich tesco 24h offy wrote:
[]
> > I think Evelyn's trying to be the best old fogey in the newsgroup. I
> > work with kids a lot, and I really don't get all this "standards are
> > slipping" nonsense.
> >
>
> But do you work with American kids in an American public
> school system? (I thought you were in the UK.)

I am. I've worked a bit with US kids in high school, but it was mostly
summer courses and so on- also quite self-selecting- i.e. kids who had
some kind of musical talent already. It's not as reflective a range as I
work with in the UK though.

However, what you said about US kids is a charge levelled at UK kids as
well.

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From: Mxsmanic on
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

> Define "resist" ...

Destroy germs before they produce any clinical infection.

> ... a slight sore throat for half a day when a
> healthy immune system encounters a new virus is not quite
> the same as being bed-ridden for a week when an unhealthy
> system encounters the same virus.

Nobody is bedridden for a week with the common cold.

Additionally, the symptoms of the common cold are caused by the
reaction of the immune system, not the virus itself. A healthy immune
system will thus produce symptoms at least as severe as a weak immune
system.

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From: Mxsmanic on
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

> Even to my inadequate comprehension, the entire quotation is
> beautiful!

So what would be your translation?

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From: jeremyrh.geo on

Mxsmanic wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
>
> > Even to my inadequate comprehension, the entire quotation is
> > beautiful!
>
> So what would be your translation?

Sorry, Mixi, school's out - you'll have to save your condescension for
your lucky students.

I just hope none of them are Africans - we know your opinion of their
mental abilities.

B;