From: Mxsmanic on 16 Jul 2006 10:09 David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy writes: > I've a student from Shanghai, and she's setting a very old Chinese poem. > She brought along an English translation, and it was fascinating to > compare that with, if you like, her less 'poetic' translation of it. It > was a reminder of how hard it is to do that kind of thing well. I think > in a way, I preferred her translation to the more poetic English one. > And of course, as sound is often so important in poetry, you missed out > on that aspect too. The chinese version begins with several word > repetitions, for example. Translations of poetry are actually rewrites. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 16 Jul 2006 10:13 David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy writes: > Yet the only person that seems to have chronic language problems here > (i.e. understanding, and being understood) is you. I mention them when I have them. Others have them but press on in silence, either ignorant of their misunderstanding or unwilling to admit to it. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy on 16 Jul 2006 10:16 Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and > prestwich tesco 24h offy writes: > > > >Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >However, music itself follows much more > > >universal rules, particularly when it comes to music that enjoys wide > > >popularity. > > > > Fascinating. What rules are they? > > Mathematical rules, mostly. I'm not a composer myself. You don't need to be a composer to answer the question. If you're going to presume to know enough about the subject to make that kind of blanket statement, I'll ask the question again. What rules are those? -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy on 16 Jul 2006 10:17 Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and > prestwich tesco 24h offy writes: > > > Yet the only person that seems to have chronic language problems here > > (i.e. understanding, and being understood) is you. > > I mention them when I have them. That's what you think you do. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on 16 Jul 2006 10:38
David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy a exprim? avec pr?cision : > What rules are those? Do you think one can answer the question without historical perspective ? I mean, are Monteverdi's rules the same as Sch?nberg's or Boulez's ? The answer being clearly no, is there a "common rule" hidden behind the two ? Can we consider that the geometrical sorting-out of an octave is the general rule. My actual musical literacy is very low - but from what I understood, there is not any rule in music that cannot be overturned. Even the "golden" rules of harmonia. -- remplacez "lesptt" par "laposte" pour me joindre substitute "laposte" for "lesptt" to reach me |