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From: Mxsmanic on 17 Jul 2006 15:00 EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: > You really ARE an idiot! So you disagree. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 17 Jul 2006 15:04 EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: > The choice of words? The descriptive imagery? Examples? > Being unable to translate something into another language > does NOT mean one cannot comprehend - and appreciate - > the original! Actually it does. Anything you can understand, you can explain in English (that is, you can translate it). This reminds me of the old claim that one hears so often in language circles: "Oh, I can understand it, I just can't speak it." In reality, that never happens: if you can understand it, you can speak it. If you can't speak it, you can't understand it. You cannot have one without the other. People who say they understand it but cannot speak it actually understand almost nothing; they get the vague gist of what is being said, but nothing more, and their imagination fills in the rest. It can be hard to convince such people that they really haven't understood anything, but asking detailed questions easily elicits the proof. The fewer languages they actually speak, the more likely they are to experience this illusion. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) on 17 Jul 2006 14:49 Mxsmanic wrote: > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and > prestwich tesco 24h offy writes: > > >>I think you pretty subjectively ascertain that what you said about >>Evelyn was an attack, and based purely on your _objective_ vieww on how >>you think she thinks. > > > It was an evaluation based on considerable empirical knowledge, "Empirical knowledge"? When have you and I ever even met? You "know" absolutely nothing about me but what you (mis)read here, yet you presume to "evaluate" me based upon that? I might take umbrage, if I thought your opinion actually mattered in the real world! (But in cyberland, who cares?)
From: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) on 17 Jul 2006 15:00 Stanislas de Kertanguy wrote: > Le 17/07/2006, David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' > th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy a ?crit : > >>> It sounds like a cool program, I'll attend it. Are you invited ? >> >> >> I am, but I'm still not 100% certain I can attend yet. It's a busy >> month. I'll certainly try though. > > > And if you never paid a visit to the Cit? de la Musique, it's definitely > worth the trip - but you surely did ! I did - to the Mus?e de la Musique, actually - on the recommendation of someone on one of my newsgroups. (There were no concerts scheduled for that week.) I found it fascinating, and I'd never have known it existed, if it weren't for the conversations the internet allows us to have with people from all over the world!
From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy on 17 Jul 2006 16:03
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' > barn and > prestwich tesco 24h offy wrote: > > > Jim Ley <jim(a)jibbering.com> wrote: > > > > > >>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:20:40 +0200, Dave Frightens Me > >><deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > >> > >>>Well, music has repetitive elements, a fixed tone system, plus changes > >>>to keep the listener interested. That's about the only 'rules' I could > >>>think of. > >> > >>fixed tone? surely that's not a requirement, > > > > > > No it isn't. Tone, fixed or otherwise, isn't even a requirement. The > > point is that there are _no_ universal rules to music, and you're > > correct also IMO in stating that finer definitions get into questions of > > aesthetics as much as anything else. I'm still fascinated to be taught > > by Mixi though as to what these universal rules are. > > Even "primitive" drumming is considered music. And don't > forget John Cage - who "wrote" one work that consists of > nothing but a specified period of silence! I was thinking of that while I wrote! -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org |