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From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy on 18 Jul 2006 06:02 Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:46:51 +0100, this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.com > (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and > prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote: > > >The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of > >> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy > >> > >> >> fixed tone? surely that's not a requirement, > >> > > >> >No it isn't. Tone, fixed or otherwise, isn't even a requirement. > >> > >> I'm not sure I understand and I'm wondering if I will regret > >> asking? > > > >Well, music doesn't necessarily have specific pitch. Drumming for > >example. I think that what DFM meant by 'fixed tone' was music that had > >pitches set roughly around specific frequencies. That's not a universal > >rule either. > > Well, at least I went out on a limb enough to try define it! > > I actually would say the fixed pitches are a requirement for music, as > anything else would be just a soundscape, That's a difference without a distinction. Fixed pitches are definitely not a requirement. Drumming is music. > which would be impossible to > render in anyway on paper. Some kinds of pitchless music (e.g. classical percussion) are easy to notate. Other kinds of pitched music are very hard to notate. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: Dave Frightens Me on 18 Jul 2006 06:05 On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:04:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: > >> The choice of words? The descriptive imagery? > >Examples? > >> Being unable to translate something into another language >> does NOT mean one cannot comprehend - and appreciate - >> the original! > >Actually it does. Anything you can understand, you can explain in >English (that is, you can translate it). > >This reminds me of the old claim that one hears so often in language >circles: "Oh, I can understand it, I just can't speak it." In >reality, that never happens: if you can understand it, you can speak >it. If you can't speak it, you can't understand it. You cannot have >one without the other. People who say they understand it but cannot >speak it actually understand almost nothing; they get the vague gist >of what is being said, but nothing more, and their imagination fills >in the rest. It can be hard to convince such people that they really >haven't understood anything, but asking detailed questions easily >elicits the proof. The fewer languages they actually speak, the more >likely they are to experience this illusion. What bullshit this is! If the words don't come to you, you can't speak it, but you may well still be able to understand it. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 18 Jul 2006 06:08 On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:00:49 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: > >> You really ARE an idiot! > >So you disagree. I occasionally agree with you, but you're still an idiot. You have provided too much evidence for there to be any doubt. And no, I am not going to 'be specific', because you never do. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 18 Jul 2006 06:10 On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:47:48 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > >Mxsmanic wrote: >> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: >> >> >>>"Empirical knowledge"? When have you and I ever even met? >> >> >> I've interacted with many people who have similar conditioning and >> similar behavior. > >And just how, pray tell, never having met me - thus having >no conceivable means of acquiring first-hand knowledge of my >"conditioning" and "behavior" - could you possibly determine >that? (You keep digging yourself into a deeper and deeper >hole, Mixi - why not quit while you still have SOME >semblance of credibility?) His quality of life is a pretty good indicator of his position of strength. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 18 Jul 2006 06:12
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:37:56 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and >prestwich tesco 24h offy writes: > >> Nothing. It's a laugh. > >What do you find amusing about personal attacks? Making someone feel bad can be quite amusing, especially when they bring it onto themselves. It may even help them, in the devil's advocate sense. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |