From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on
David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy avait ?crit le 18/07/2006 :
> The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of
>> besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy
>>
>>>> but isn't that total pretentious bollox?
>>>> I'd be interested in the musicians' views.
>>>
>>> I think it's an important work.
>>
>> I can see its an interesting statement, that silence is
>> "something" but to call it a work? Can you buy a recording?
>
> Possibly.

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From: barney2 on
In article <6p4ib2t5ccf6v1cie0kp514d0ld7h8mqij(a)4ax.com>,
mxsmanic(a)gmail.com (Mxsmanic) wrote:

> Grammar is not a person, so it says nothing. People follow the rules
> of grammar because they cannot communicate with each other otherwise.

The point, surely, is that there is a middle ground between slavishly
following every single handed-down rule of grammar and completely
abandoning grammar; and it's in that middle ground that grammatical
innovation and development occur.

For example, formulations such as "me and Antony" are now not only
universally understood but also don't grate on very many people as being
'wrong' - I'd say they have effectively /become/ grammatically acceptable.

In a similar way (and perhaps this is a change to be mourned a little) the
gap of meaning between "which" and "that" in everyday usage has narrowed
to near-invisibility. I'm sure in a couple of generations it will have
closed entirely and their interchangeability will be accepted in the
politest circles.

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From: barney2 on
In article <1himbpj.d83quo133gvolN%this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.com>,
this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.com (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

> *From:* this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.com (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
> offy)
> *Date:* Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:58:58 +0100
>
> Stanislas de Kertanguy <stanislas.dekertanguy(a)lesptt.net> wrote:
>
> > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
> > prestwich tesco 24h offy a pens? tr?s fort :
> []
> > > Well, music doesn't necessarily have specific pitch. Drumming for
> > > example. I think that what DFM meant by 'fixed tone' was music that
> > > had
> > > pitches set roughly around specific frequencies. That's not a
> > > universal
> > > rule either.
> >
> > I'll try to be the devil's advocate. Mxsmanic wrote about "popular
> > music". If one gives an ear to the music that enjoys large popularity
> > worldwide, it's not preposterous to say that it's nearly 100% tonal
> > music. I know only 1 LP of dodecaphonic rock (and I don't think it
> > sold
> > well, either :-)
>
> Ah, but read what Mixi wrote-
>
> "However, music itself follows much more universal rules, particularly
> when it comes to music that enjoys wide popularity."
>
> The get out clause doesn't really cut it. It's a very wrong statement.
> Drumming is pretty popular anyway!
>
> A lot of subsets of 'popular music' are certainly not 100% tonal- e.g.
> electronica. BTW, my electronica transcriptions (Boards of Canada, Aphex
> Twin and Squarepusher) will be in Paris (Cite de la Musique) on October
> 23 this year.

Will you be wearing your craftsmanship on your sleeve again? I thought
we'd warned you about that...
From: Mxsmanic on
Dave Frightens Me writes:

> Making someone feel bad can be quite amusing, especially when they
> bring it onto themselves.

I've never seen anything amusing in hurting others.

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From: Mxsmanic on
Dave Frightens Me writes:

> I occasionally agree with you, but you're still an idiot.

How smart is a person who agrees with an idiot?

> And no, I am not going to 'be specific', because you never do.

You've already written more than enough, rest assured.

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